Help needed: disabling system wide the Caps lock key in GNOME/Xwayland

[Joachim Backes]

Hi gys, I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I 
do not need (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the 
disabling system wide, and how to get it working again? Regards Joachim 
Backes

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Joachim Backes<joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de>
https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/

[Tim]

On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 21:30 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
>  I'm running F38 with Gnome/X-Wayland, and in my environment I do
> not
>  need (hate it) the Caps Lock key.
>  Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how to get it
>  working again? 
Aren't there options for that in the keyboard preferences any more?  Is
gnome tweaks still around, does that offer anything?

Is there anything useful in here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=284240

There's the brute force and ignorance method that many businesses do: 
pop the keycap off

The less ugly solution:  slide some hard spaghetti under it so it won't
press down.  Cut to the right length, they're not visible.

I've soldered buzzers across my caps lock lights (previously I replaced
the LEDs with super high brightness ones).  I can still use caps lock,
but I'm instantly warned that I've pressed the thing.  And being built
into the keyboard, it always works.  Yes, I know there's OS ways of
making it play an alert when caps lock is pressed (in disability
support), however the sound system doesn't come to life quick enough to
play the sound (and you have to have speakers).  I hate pulseaudio's
muting, likewise with its newer replacement, pipewire.  There used to
be a way to make the motherboard beeper fire off.
 
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[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:11:07 +0930
Tim via users wrote:

>  Aren't there options for that in the keyboard preferences any
> more?  Is
>  gnome tweaks still around, does that offer anything? 
As near as I can tell (the last time I looked, anyway), wayland has
completely eviscerated all the ability to tweak keys and mouse buttons.
For my mouse, I implemented a hardware solution (which should work
for keyboards as well with additional microcode):

https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/mouse-tailor/mouse-tailor.html

:-).

[wwp]

Hello Tom,


On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:35:29 -0400 Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:11:07 +0930
>  Tim via users wrote:
>  
>  > Aren't there options for that in the keyboard preferences any more?  Is
>  > gnome tweaks still around, does that offer anything?  
>  
>  As near as I can tell (the last time I looked, anyway), wayland has
>  completely eviscerated all the ability to tweak keys and mouse buttons.
>  For my mouse, I implemented a hardware solution (which should work
>  for keyboards as well with additional microcode):
>  
>  https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/mouse-tailor/mouse-tailor.html
>  
>  :-). 
Just curious, does this mean that xbindkeys wouldn't work in wayland?


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[Neal Becker]

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:28 AM wwp <subscript(a)free.fr&gt; wrote:

>  Hello Tom,
>
>
>  On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:35:29 -0400 Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>
>  > On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:11:07 +0930
>  > Tim via users wrote:
>  >
>  > > Aren't there options for that in the keyboard preferences any more?  Is
>  > > gnome tweaks still around, does that offer anything?
>  >
>  > As near as I can tell (the last time I looked, anyway), wayland has
>  > completely eviscerated all the ability to tweak keys and mouse buttons.
>  > For my mouse, I implemented a hardware solution (which should work
>  > for keyboards as well with additional microcode):
>  >
>  > https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/mouse-tailor/mouse-tailor.html
>  >
>  > :-).
>
>  Just curious, does this mean that xbindkeys wouldn't work in wayland?
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  I'm typing this on kde/wayland with caps lock as an alternate control, so 
it is
more than possible.
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[Felix Miata]

Joachim Backes composed on 2023-08-01 21:30 (UTC+0200):

>  Hi gys, I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my
> environment I 
>  do not need (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the 
>  disabling system wide, and how to get it working again? 
Whether that's possible or not I have no idea. I had the same problem with scroll
lock, but with a keycap puller I pulled the cap and found something soft to stuff
under it that makes it hard to push all the way down. Now I can use it if I need
to, but it doesn't happen by accident any more.
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[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rptu.de&gt; wrote:
>  I'm running F38 with Gnome/X-Wayland, and in my environment I do not need (hate it)
> the Caps Lock key.
>  Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how to get it working again?
Maybe xmodmap? Something like https://superuser.com/a/775811 ?

But beware of ibus, like https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/528854 .

Jeff

[Barry]

>  On 2 Aug 2023, at 08:32, Jeffrey Walton <noloader(a)gmail.com&gt;
> wrote:
>  
>  Maybe xmodmap? Something like https://superuser.com/a/775811 ? 
That was the goto solution, but with wayland that will not work as it is X11 specific.

Barry

[murph nj]

Gnome tweaks has a simple solution to this.

Install Tweaks through "Software" or
dnf install gnome-tweaks

Run Tweaks and go to the "Keyboard and Mouse" section.
The 4th option down is an "Additional Layout options" button.
There are many things you can remap the CapsLock key to, like Esc, ctrl, or
my preference a Super key, since I usually use an IBM model M keyboard
which does not have one.

No need to revert back to X11, or any kind of hardware solution.



On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rptu.de&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi gys,
>  I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not need (hate it)
> the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how to get it
> working again?
>
>  Regards
>
>  Joachim Backes
>
>  --
>
>  Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight)
>  6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64
>
>  Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de&gt;
> <[e-mail]>https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/
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[Thomas]

Hello,

I had that issue recently, the way I sorted it was with gsettings/dconf:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
"['ctrl:nocaps']"

I suspect this is what gnome-tweaks does. Actually as far as I know, Wayland still sources
xkb files, it's not very much documented but I recall having found a few places
suggesting that (I use stock F38 with Gnome and Wayland).

And thus see: man xkeyboard-config for a list of options which can be set, which is a bit
wider than what gnome-tweaks propose.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, at 15:56, murph nj wrote:
> Gnome tweaks has a simple solution to this.
>
> Install Tweaks through "Software" or
> dnf install gnome-tweaks
>
> Run Tweaks and go to the "Keyboard and Mouse" section.
> The 4th option down is an "Additional Layout options" button.
> There are many things you can remap the CapsLock key to, like Esc, ctrl, or
> my preference a Super key, since I usually use an IBM model M keyboard
> which does not have one.
>
> No need to revert back to X11, or any kind of hardware solution.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rptu.de&gt;
> wrote:
>
>> Hi gys,
>> I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not need
(hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how
to get it working again?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Joachim Backes
>>
>> --
>>
>> Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight)
>> 6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64
>>
>> Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de&gt;
<[e-mail]>https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/
>>
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[Ron Flory]

On 8/2/2023 10:42 AM, Thomas wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  I had that issue recently, the way I sorted it was with gsettings/dconf:
>
>  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
> "['ctrl:nocaps']"
>
>  I suspect this is what gnome-tweaks does. Actually as far as I know, Wayland still
> sources xkb files, it's not very much documented but I recall having found a few
> places suggesting that (I use stock F38 with Gnome and Wayland).
>
>  And thus see: man xkeyboard-config for a list of options which can be set, which is a bit
> wider than what gnome-tweaks propose.
>
>  On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, at 15:56, murph nj wrote:
> > Gnome tweaks has a simple solution to this.
> >
> > Install Tweaks through "Software" or
> > dnf install gnome-tweaks
> >
> > Run Tweaks and go to the "Keyboard and Mouse" section.
> > The 4th option down is an "Additional Layout options" button.
> > There are many things you can remap the CapsLock key to, like Esc, ctrl, or
> > my preference a Super key, since I usually use an IBM model M keyboard
> > which does not have one.
> >
> > No need to revert back to X11, or any kind of hardware solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rptu.de&gt;
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi gys,
> >> I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not need
> (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how
> to get it working again?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Joachim Backes
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight)
> >> 6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64
> >>
> >> Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de&gt;
> <[e-mail]>https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/
> >>
> >>
>  
  (hmmm, much top-posting up there)

  Since nobody else has mentioned this (apologies if this does not 
address your needs, and you *really* hate the presence of the Caps-Lock 
key), but most motherboard BIOS's have a setting for startup "numlock 
state".  I always set mine to "Disabled" and it keeps the unwanted Caps 
keys away unless/until I explicitly (temporarily) enable them by hitting 
the Caps-Lock key.

ron

[Neal Becker]

#!/bin/sh
setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:16 PM Ron Flory via users <
users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  On 8/2/2023 10:42 AM, Thomas wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I had that issue recently, the way I sorted it was with gsettings/dconf:
>  >
>  > gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
>  "['ctrl:nocaps']"
>  >
>  > I suspect this is what gnome-tweaks does. Actually as far as I know,
>  Wayland still sources xkb files, it's not very much documented but I recall
>  having found a few places suggesting that (I use stock F38 with Gnome and
>  Wayland).
>  >
>  > And thus see: man xkeyboard-config for a list of options which can be
>  set, which is a bit wider than what gnome-tweaks propose.
>  >
>  > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, at 15:56, murph nj wrote:
>  >> Gnome tweaks has a simple solution to this.
>  >>
>  >> Install Tweaks through "Software" or
>  >> dnf install gnome-tweaks
>  >>
>  >> Run Tweaks and go to the "Keyboard and Mouse" section.
>  >> The 4th option down is an "Additional Layout options" button.
>  >> There are many things you can remap the CapsLock key to, like Esc,
>  ctrl, or
>  >> my preference a Super key, since I usually use an IBM model M keyboard
>  >> which does not have one.
>  >>
>  >> No need to revert back to X11, or any kind of hardware solution.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rptu.de&gt;
>  >> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Hi gys,
>  >>> I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not
>  need (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling
>  system wide, and how to get it working again?
>  >>>
>  >>> Regards
>  >>>
>  >>> Joachim Backes
>  >>>
>  >>> --
>  >>>
>  >>> Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight)
>  >>> 6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64
>  >>>
>  >>> Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de&gt; <
>  [e-mail]>https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/
>  >>>
>  >>>
>
>    (hmmm, much top-posting up there)
>
>    Since nobody else has mentioned this (apologies if this does not
>  address your needs, and you *really* hate the presence of the Caps-Lock
>  key), but most motherboard BIOS's have a setting for startup "numlock
>  state".  I always set mine to "Disabled" and it keeps the unwanted Caps
>  keys away unless/until I explicitly (temporarily) enable them by hitting
>  the Caps-Lock key.
>
>  ron
>
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[Tim]

On Wed, 2023-08-02 at 15:16 -0500, Ron Flory via users wrote:
>  Since nobody else has mentioned this (apologies if this does not 
>  address your needs, and you *really* hate the presence of the Caps-Lock 
>  key), but most motherboard BIOS's have a setting for startup "numlock 
>  state".  I always set mine to "Disabled" and it keeps the unwanted Caps 
>  keys away unless/until I explicitly (temporarily) enable them by hitting 
>  the Caps-Lock key. 
I've never seen any BIOS have any effect on the CAPS LOCK key.
 
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Repeated tries at sending a message...
I had a "dnf update" interrupted.
Sent original help message on 08/02/2023.
I've managed to fix my system.
Would like to share what I had to do.
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How to increase size of /boot partition

[richard emberson]

Just today I upgraded from 39 to 40 but there was an issue:
dnf told me I needed some 800k more space in my /boot partition to proceed.
I had two kernels in /boot so I dnf removed those associated with the older
of the two kernels. I then successfully upgraded.
I fear the next time I do a dnf update which includes a new kernel I will
be told, again, that there is not enough space in my /boot partition.

So, how can I increase the size of the /boot partition? Many partitions,
like /tmp, are bigger than they need to be.

Here is what how the /sda disk is organized.
$ lsblk
NAME                                  MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINTS
sda                                     8:0    0 223.6G  0 disk
├─sda1                                  8:1    0   250M  0 part  /boot
├─sda2                                  8:2    0 105.5G  0 part
│ └─luks-a2ebb2b0-527d-47f3-83ef-e5908805f31d
│                                     253:3    0 105.5G  0 crypt /ssd
├─sda3                                  8:3    0  97.7G  0 part
│ └─luks-35719a97-5898-4420-9a56-1576ffdc6db3
│                                     253:1    0  97.7G  0 crypt /
├─sda4                                  8:4    0     1K  0 part
├─sda5                                  8:5    0   9.8G  0 part
│ └─luks-5ee2ed8e-4bdf-43e1-adb0-34a70610a77f
│                                     253:2    0   9.8G  0 crypt /tmp
└─sda6                                  8:6    0   9.8G  0 part
   └─luks-03c06df8-f9b9-4f0d-847e-79a7ed527888
                                       253:0    0   9.8G  0 crypt [SWAP]

$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/dm-1        96G   22G   70G  25% /
devtmpfs        4.0M     0  4.0M   0% /dev
tmpfs            16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs           6.3G  1.8M  6.3G   1% /run
/dev/sda1       237M  179M   42M  82% /boot
/dev/dm-2       9.5G  260K  9.0G   1% /tmp
/dev/dm-3       104G  193M   99G   1% /ssd
/dev/dm-4       1.9T  1.2T  630G  66% /home
/dev/dm-5       1.7T  903G  736G  56% /data1
/dev/dm-6        20G   12G  6.9G  63% /var
tmpfs           3.2G  152K  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000


Thanks for any help give.

I realize one way is to backup /home and then reinstall Fedora but
1) that seems like a lot of work and
2) it would mean that the machine in question would then have to
use Wayland rather than Xorg.

Richard

How to increase size of /boot partition

[Go Canes]

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:52 PM richard emberson <emberson.rich(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Just today I upgraded from 39 to 40 but there was an issue:
>  dnf told me I needed some 800k more space in my /boot partition to proceed.
>  I had two kernels in /boot so I dnf removed those associated with the older
>  of the two kernels. I then successfully upgraded.
>  I fear the next time I do a dnf update which includes a new kernel I will
>  be told, again, that there is not enough space in my /boot partition. 
I recently had to resize my /boot.  The original install was several
Fedora versions back was 500MB, and more recent installs are 1GB.

What I did was backup my file systems to an external USB drive, boot
off the netinstall ISO, re-partition, re-mkfs, restore, then go
through all the UUID hassles recently documented in another thread.
If you have a sufficient drive to use for backups this may be the
easiest solution - it is probably the safest.

You are using LUKS which may complicate things.....

How to increase size of /boot partition

[John Pilkington]

On 03/05/2024 18:52, richard emberson wrote:
>  Just today I upgraded from 39 to 40 but there was an issue:
>  dnf told me I needed some 800k more space in my /boot partition to proceed.
>  I had two kernels in /boot so I dnf removed those associated with the older
>  of the two kernels. I then successfully upgraded.
>  I fear the next time I do a dnf update which includes a new kernel I will
>  be told, again, that there is not enough space in my /boot partition.
>  
>  So, how can I increase the size of the /boot partition? Many partitions,
>  like /tmp, are bigger than they need to be.
>  
>  Here is what how the /sda disk is organized.
>  $ lsblk
>  NAME                                  MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  
>  MOUNTPOINTS
>  sda                                     8:0    0 223.6G  0 disk
>  ├─sda1                                  8:1    0   250M  0 part  /boot
>  ├─sda2                                  8:2    0 105.5G  0 part
>  │ └─luks-a2ebb2b0-527d-47f3-83ef-e5908805f31d
>  │                                     253:3    0 105.5G  0 crypt /ssd
>  ├─sda3                                  8:3    0  97.7G  0 part
>  │ └─luks-35719a97-5898-4420-9a56-1576ffdc6db3
>  │                                     253:1    0  97.7G  0 crypt /
>  ├─sda4                                  8:4    0     1K  0 part
>  ├─sda5                                  8:5    0   9.8G  0 part
>  │ └─luks-5ee2ed8e-4bdf-43e1-adb0-34a70610a77f
>  │                                     253:2    0   9.8G  0 crypt /tmp
>  └─sda6                                  8:6    0   9.8G  0 part
>     └─luks-03c06df8-f9b9-4f0d-847e-79a7ed527888
>                                         253:0    0   9.8G  0 crypt [SWAP]
>  
>  $ df -h
>  Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>  /dev/dm-1        96G   22G   70G  25% /
>  devtmpfs        4.0M     0  4.0M   0% /dev
>  tmpfs            16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
>  tmpfs           6.3G  1.8M  6.3G   1% /run
>  /dev/sda1       237M  179M   42M  82% /boot
>  /dev/dm-2       9.5G  260K  9.0G   1% /tmp
>  /dev/dm-3       104G  193M   99G   1% /ssd
>  /dev/dm-4       1.9T  1.2T  630G  66% /home
>  /dev/dm-5       1.7T  903G  736G  56% /data1
>  /dev/dm-6        20G   12G  6.9G  63% /var
>  tmpfs           3.2G  152K  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000
>  
>  
>  Thanks for any help give.
>  
>  I realize one way is to backup /home and then reinstall Fedora but
>  1) that seems like a lot of work and
>  2) it would mean that the machine in question would then have to
>  use Wayland rather than Xorg.
>  
>  Richard 
This isn't a direct reply to your question:  IIUC you need to run a 
'live' image to do that.

But I installed f40 a few days ago, and today "dnf upgrade" installed 
kernel-6.8.8 but *not* vmlinuz-6.8.8, so booting failed.

My /boot partition is 450 GB, and I now have two bootable f40 kernels 
and a recent rescue kernel.  There's no room for another.  You probably 
don't have a "recovery" option.

I now have "installonly_limit=2" in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf, but a new "dnf 
upgrade" after that said there was "nothing to do".  What did work was ( 
while running 6.8.7):

sudo dnf remove kernel-core-6.8.8
sudo dnf upgrade

and then when "systemctl list-jobs" was clear, "sudo systemctl
reboot"

I, too, would prefer to have a bigger /boot, but this info might help.

John P

How to increase size of /boot partition

[George N. White III]

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:52 PM richard emberson <emberson.rich(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  Just today I upgraded from 39 to 40 but there was an issue:
>  dnf told me I needed some 800k more space in my /boot partition to proceed.
>  I had two kernels in /boot so I dnf removed those associated with the older
>  of the two kernels. I then successfully upgraded.
>  
[...]

>  I realize one way is to backup /home and then reinstall Fedora but
1) that seems like a lot of work and
>  2) it would mean that the machine in question would then have to
>  use Wayland rather than Xorg.
>  
Bots have taken over the internet, and contrary to "bot" wisdom, Fedora 40
still has Xorg.

Systems upgraded over many years often have packages that not present in
current F40.  Resulting issues can be difficult to understand as few users
will have those old packages.   Doing a fresh install every few years keeps
you closer to a configuration others have, so any issues you do encounter
will probably affect others, but "all problems are shallow given enough
eyes".

A fresh install also gives you the option of moving to xfs or btrfs.

-- 
George N. White III