Appointment of Board Members.

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:26:51PM -0400, Max Spevack wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:09:47AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> >> Toshio Kuratomi said the following on 08/13/2010 01:48 PM Pacific Time:
> >>> Notes:
> >>> * In the Max Spevack era, the Board was pushed away from making decisions
> >>>    for two reasons: 1) FESCo was deemed to be the body that understood the
> >>>    technical issues at hand and therefore the body that should make most of
> >>>    the decisions regarding Fedora.  2) The Board was not all elected and
> >>>    therefore didn't have as much of a "mandate from the people".  In the Paul
> >>>    Frields era, the Board started to make many more decisions.  I don't think
> >>>    that's necessarily a good thing as they've trampled all over reason #1
> >>>    above but being fully elected would help to alleviate reason #2.
> >>
> >> I don't recall things going down this way.  Please name some concrete
> >> examples of this "trampling" so we can be discussing the same thing.
> >>
> > The first example of it that I can think of was at the transition between
> > the Max Spevack and Paul Frields eras with Codeina.  Here's some pointers
> > from the middle to mid-end of that:
> >
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2008-March/005032.html
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2008-March/005054.html
> 
> I don't understand what these two emails are meant to illustrate.
> 
> Codeina was an open issue around the time we transitioned the FPL role 
> from me to Paul.  I recall one of the first things that Paul worked on 
> with his FPL hat on was to address that problem.
> 
> That's what I see when I re-read his email.
> 
> What I see when I re-read mine is me doing my best to apologize for a 
> situation that I felt ultimately responsible for, and to be accountable 
> in public, especially because other people were cleaning up an issue 
> that carried over from my "watch", so to speak.
> 
<nod>  I agree with those things.

Poelcat was asking for examples where the Board interfered with things that
were rightly in fesco's sphere of influence.  Since this was a transitional
period, I felt it was good to post both your summary of past events and
Paul's email of then current information.

-Toshio
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