Empowering Fedora sub-communities

[Christian Schaller]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jaroslav Reznik" <jreznik at redhat.com>
> To: "Fedora community advisory board" <advisory-board at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 6:56:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Empowering Fedora sub-communities
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:06:06PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > How about if we decouple Fedora-the-product and Fedora-the-community?
> > > The obvious model here is Ubuntu, who over time have spawned several
> > > products driven by independent subcommunities. These products are
> > > independently managed but use common respoitories and are tied to the
> > > same overall release schedule, and each has its own strong branding -
> > > Kubuntu even has its own financial backing.
> > 
> > I like the basic idea -- and _especially_ like reinforcing that the Fedora
> > community (and the Fedora Project) are bigger than the Fedora distribution.
> 
> That's what KDE as a community/project tried to do - for the same reason.
> One would say without a lot of success.
> 
> But the idea is - KDE is a community, project that's umbrella for many other
> subprojects, like Plasma Workspaces, Libraries (now KDE Frameworks) and
> Applications that actually does not have to be ran on top of Plasma
> Worskpace but for example as part of our Workstation.
> 
> "Today KDE released updates for its Workspaces, Applications and Development
> Platform."
> 
> Maybe we can try to decouple Fedora Project from actual products in terms
> of branding. Yeah, there's possibility of loosing strong brand as Fedora
> is, there's possibility Fedora brand is so strong, that we will never get
> to misuse of this name (as happened for KDE).
> 
> "The Shell by Fedora Project"
> "The Role Server by Fedora Project"
> "The Plasma by Fedora Project"

> Hosted on the own domains, name spaces with fedoraproject.org as umbrella
> for common wiki etc.

I actually like this idea a lot, although what I would have us do in such
a scenario is make 'Fedora' the output of the Base working group.

And then have any products set themselves up with a new brand and identity and just have a
'powered by Fedora' subline or something like that. 

Basically every product becomes a remix at that point which to me actually would make a lot of
sense. Of course we could have certain products do some kind of brand clustering, but that would
be solely up to each individual project of course, because such decisions wouldn't really be
any of 'Fedoras' business anymore.

Christian
 
> But I'd expect it would be much more work we are able to do in the short
> term future but next actually drives this change.
> 
> > And I also share your concern about the perception. Is the Ubuntu model
> > drawing the line a little too strongly? If we go this route, I want the...
> > secondary (is there a better word here?) products to still feel (and be!)
> > supported and included rather than kicked out or downgraded.
> 
> Well, I perceive that model as there are no sub-communities but several
> communities on their own and it's probably going to diverge more in the
> future with underlying technologies Ubuntu is going to use.
> 
> Jaroslav
> 
> > 
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> > Matthew Miller    --   Fedora Project    --    <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
> >                                   "Tepid change for the somewhat better!"
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