<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Mike McGrath <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmcgrath@redhat.com">mmcgrath@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:<br>
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> On Thursday 11 March 2010, Paul W. Frields wrote:<br>
> > As noted in our previous minutes[1], the Board was tasked with<br>
> > producing a vision statement for updates to Fedora stable releases.<br>
> > That vision can be found here:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision</a><br>
> ><br>
> > This statement is the result of many Board discussions which have<br>
> > taken into consideration issues raised recently in numerous other<br>
> > venues such as the devel list. After considering these issues<br>
> > carefully, along with other factors such as the broad user base for<br>
> > which we should strive[2], the Board feels this vision will best meet<br>
> > the needs of our millions of users, including our contributor base.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Board would like FESCo to read through this vision statement, and<br>
> > use it as a basis for implementing changes that will help achieve this<br>
> > vision. We look forward to working with FESCo and across the whole<br>
> > Fedora Project to continue improving the Fedora distribution.<br>
><br>
> So we're now getting a diktat from the half-unelected Board which appears to<br>
> completely ignore the desires of the majority of our users[1], instead<br>
> repeating already disproven arguments such as the following?<br>
><br>
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</div>The bases if your argument for [1]:<br>
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> [1] <a href="http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1337744" target="_blank">http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1337744</a><br>
><br>
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</div>I'm sorry but no one with any experience in statistics would take that<br>
seriously. FWIW, I'm dicktat from the half-elected Board. If you want to<br>
reference a scientific survey of our users that actually meets the tests<br>
one should use (perhaps we could pay someone?) that's fine. Referencing<br>
[1] though... Does not use methodology even close to what it would take<br>
for us to say "majority of our users". That's not to say the results<br>
wouldn't come out the same, they might but we can't tell at the moment.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div>+1 Been trying to get people to see this for months. But it seems their surveys are not at all scientifically based. More like complete guesswork. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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-Mike<br>
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