[Ambassadors] Meeting Minute: FAmSCo Town Hall 2010-02-08

[Sascha Thomas Spreitzer]

Hello freedom fighters,

2010/2/10 Matthias Kranz <matthiaskranz at gmx.de>:
> On 02/10/2010 09:52 AM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote:
>> Hello Matthias,
>>
>> 2010/2/9 Matthias Kranz<matthiaskranz at gmx.de>:
>>> On 02/09/2010 06:12 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>>> Currently Red Hat seems to try to cut costs at the expense of their employees and the
>>>> Fedora community. This will not work out, it's cutting off their nose to spite their face!
>>>
>>> Christoph,
>>>
>>> what does you lead to the perception that "Red Hat is cutting costs at
>>> the expense of their employees and the Fedora community"?
>>>
>>> And second question: Did you recently look at the financial numbers of
>>> Novell?
>>
>> is Novell our best practice?
>
> The only thing I wanted to point out is that Novell is definitely
> spending more money than they earn. Which includes Marketing. Which
> includes all kinds of Community support.
>

The thing I want to point is that I dont care about Novells business plans.

>> I think we are different, but the symbiosis of Fedora and RHT is due
>> to some bottlenecks in EMEA at the very moment very exhausting.
>
> I really don't know what you mean here. What bottlenecks are you
> referring to? And it sounds as if you extend the discussion to a wider
> field than before?
>

The issue is not money, the issue is that approvals from RHT side take too long.
So the money cannot be spent.

>> Beware RHT, once the contributors are upset, they might consider a
>> strike? Or leave the project?
>  >
>> @Matthias; What would RHT do if EMEA strikes for 2 release cycles?
>
> I really don't know what you mean by "EMEA striking for 2 release cycles
> ...".
>
>> @Christoph; What do you think, how many blockings and dead ends are
>> acceptable until you would leave the project?
>
> The discussion is going into a wrong direction. As others already
> pointed out. The Fedora Ambassador project has a decent budget which was
> (still is) not even totally used. So, if there are ideas how to spend it
> more effective and lasting, I am sure that the FAmSCO and its budget
> manager consider every constructive contribution.

How can you spend budget, which you cannot approve for yourself, aka.
which is not your budget but RHT budget.
See the issue?

Fedora wants to move on, but RHT employees/managers/executives are our
bottleneck.

Cant we either get more RHT managers who release load from the
existing ones, or cant we as a community get a general RHT statement
which allows us to spend the budget in the name of RHT?

>
> Matthias
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards,
Sascha Thomas Spreitzer

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