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<BR>yeah its good idea.<BR>
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<P align=center><FONT color=#99cc00 size=6 face="Arial Black, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif"><U>Avinash Singh</U></FONT> <IMG src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emgift.gif" width=19 height=19></P></DIV><BR><BR>> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:27:24 +0200<BR>> From: chitlesh.goorah@gmail.com<BR>> To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list<BR>> <BR>> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields :<BR>> > Having open archives is good because it means people can read<BR>> > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or<BR>> > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the<BR>> > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the<BR>> > project.<BR>> <BR>> Hello there,<BR>> <BR>> Ever since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created way back in 2005,<BR>> this type of discussion comes up every 6/7 months.<BR>> <BR>> I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador<BR>> Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that.<BR>> <BR>> However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public.<BR>> <BR>> A short summary:<BR>> The Fedora Ambassador Project is a sub project of the Fedora Marketing<BR>> Project and everyone will agree with that. Fedora Marketing List is<BR>> open to public, but Fedora Ambassador project's does not. All<BR>> Ambassadors _must_ be subscribed to the Marketing mailing list.<BR>> <BR>> Coming back to Paul Frield's words:<BR>> > we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project.<BR>> <BR>> The collaboration between ambassadors and the rest of the project _IS_<BR>> and _should be_ via the marketing mailing list and not ambassador<BR>> mailing list.<BR>> <BR>> When the ambassador project was initiated, the ambassador mailing list<BR>> was intented to serve as a ground to discuss critical issues (freely<BR>> between Fedora Ambassadors) such as:<BR>> - budget expenses on a particular event<BR>> - frank discussions (but between ambassadors ONLY) about difficulties<BR>> they had during events. Thus next time, other fedora ambassadors don't<BR>> fall into the same problems.<BR>> example: if for a particular event ambassadors had a very bad<BR>> experience with a hotel, he/she can share his/her views here. If the<BR>> list is opened, this type of discussion will implicate bad publicity<BR>> for the hotel. We are ambassadors and not hotel-star-tagger. Thus a<BR>> private ML protects our views.<BR>> -............(there are many critical issues, that you are already aware of)<BR>> <BR>> Fedora Ambassadors are not those who decide the faith/roadmap(FAB<BR>> does) of the whole Fedora Project. Thus to the outside world, this<BR>> mailing list is not important.<BR>> <BR>> A REQUEST TO ALL AMBASSADORS:<BR>> <BR>> The Fedora Ambassador Project had many difficulties in the past. Every<BR>> time we all worked together to solve those difficulties. We are all<BR>> proud of the success of our improvements. The latter is based on our 3<BR>> years experience we have.<BR>> <BR>> Please next time before deciding something about the Fedora<BR>> Ambassadors Project's faith, DO NOT destroy what we have constructed<BR>> during the last past years.<BR>> <BR>> Being a Fedora Ambassador is being part of the exciting Fedora<BR>> Marketing family. During many events we have proved to the rest of the<BR>> world we are the most solid and proffesional marketing team.Believe me<BR>> or not, the closed Fedora Ambassador ML has a lot to contribute to<BR>> that.<BR>> <BR>> Fedora Marketing Mailing List:<BR>> <BR>> As for more inter-projects collaboration, I believe everyone should<BR>> make an effort to use the Fedora Marketing List instead of using it as<BR>> a news-posting media AND leave Fedora Ambassador ML closed for<BR>> critical issues.<BR>> <BR>> I don't believe that opening ambassador project ML will bring more<BR>> good than bad things to it. I still stress of the word QUALITY! If you<BR>> followed our last big events, you would have seen that quality in<BR>> promoting the Fedora Project.<BR>> <BR>> Making the ambassador subscription process easier is not by opening<BR>> the ambassador mailing list, but rather every ambassador should work<BR>> for that.<BR>> <BR>> Vote: -1 : I support JoergSimon's arguments and do not vote blindly.<BR>> <BR>> Kind regards,<BR>> Chitlesh<BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list<BR>> Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com<BR>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list<BR><br /><hr />Get the latest buzz on outsourcing. Up to date information on mergers, acquisitions and deals on BPO Watch. <a href='http://www.bpowatchindia.com/default.asp' target='_new'>Try it now!</a></body>
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