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Am 03.08.2010 20:03, schrieb Mahmoud Abdul Jawad:
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<div dir="ltr">using IRC is another good point.<br>
i think, we can use another channel, such #fedora-notifications
that is just to submit such ones.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Mahmoud Abul Jawad<br>
@meGenius<br>
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2010/8/3 Ryan Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@ryanlewis.net" target="_blank">me@ryanlewis.net</a>></span><br>
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I agree, this is a great idea.<br>
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I'm not even sure much work would be required other than
getting the proper existing software into the mix.<br>
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For example, we could make sure the standard installs have
xchat + register them a nick on freenode, and then have it
startup automagically and join #fedora (this is all existing
stuff).<br>
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A simply (python) script could check for the latest fedora
news and provide a button to click to open firefox and go to
the right url.<br>
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-rhl <br>
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<div dir="ltr">in fact, what you said about the
"web" part is the best option, however, creating a
AIR or Titanium is really bad idea.<br>
a simple console based program can connect to the
internet & get the updates, & post them to
dbus notifications, here is a python example of
how to use the dbus notifications:<br>
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import dbus<br>
bus = dbus.SessionBus()<br>
notifications =
bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Notifications',
'/org/freedesktop/Notifications')<br>
interface = dbus.Interface(notifications,
'org.freedesktop.Notifications')<br>
id = 4856<br>
timeout = 2500<br>
interface.Notify('name',id,'','summary','body','','',timout)<br>
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2010/8/3 Manuel Escudero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jmlevick@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jmlevick@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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2010/8/3 Ryan Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@ryanlewis.net" target="_blank">me@ryanlewis.net</a>></span>
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I'd be willing to join such a
project.<br>
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-rhl
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Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:50
AM, Rahul Sundaram <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metherid@gmail.com" target="_blank">metherid@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div> On 08/03/2010
01:31 PM, Manuel
Escudero wrote:<br>
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> So because of
this, I came out with
an idea, it's just an
idea, don't<br>
> know if you may
consider it important
and/or interesting:<br>
><br>
> Why don't we use
a "second notification
system" I mean, by
example, we<br>
> can add to
anaconda an additional
step<br>
> to let people
create some kind of
FAS account in order
to win more<br>
> "adepts" and also
giving us the chance
of notify<br>
> them by e-mail or
something like that
when this kind of
problems<br>
> happen. (Of
course, if they agree
with that)<br>
><br>
> Or maybe a Fedora
News Digest app
integrated in all
major desktop<br>
> enviroments and
activable only under
users order...<br>
><br>
> Don't Know...
Just an idea, any
words to add?<br>
><br>
> P.S. I
contributed with my
two cents by making a
blog post announcing<br>
> the bug and also
asked the
"thisweekinlinux" guy
to talk about it in<br>
> his next video<br>
> in order to let
more users to be
awared of the bug and
able to fix it,<br>
> he agreed by the
way :)<br>
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It has been suggested
before. It just
requires someone to
write such a<br>
app and convince the
different teams to
include it by default.
Are you<br>
willing to look into
that?<br>
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Rahul<br>
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<font face="tahoma,sans-serif">Well, I
build Simple but functional webapps
and webpages... I certanly can build a
web gadget with a feed parsing
function so when you run the app (or
if you have it open) you recieve all
the important Fedora News in the
moment they are generated, a
"Notifier" to call it in some way. I
can bring it to the Desktop using
technologies such as Adobe AIR (I know
we have problems with AIR because it's
not free) But there is also Titanium,
I never used it but it's suposed to
furfill the air's functions being
opensource. There is also another
alternative: Mozilla Prism. We add
this program to fedora and somehow
create a launcher for the webgadget in
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<div><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">Also,
if we're going to work with web
gadgets I bet there's a PLASMA
WIDGET to serve as a notifier so
there should be one similar app for
Gnome (Like a Screenlet or I don't
Know) But the other Option can be to
put these apps for default opened in
all major desktops, parsing the
Fedora Feed. By Fedora Feed i refer
to any of the news feeds of the
project, it can be the Twitter Feed,
one from blogger, Facebook, I don't
Know (Or maybe we can build a new
one just for these cases, don't
know, I'm just giving ideas)</font></div>
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<div><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">That's
the help I can offer, I only work
with Web Code... </font></div>
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As well we could offer a RSS Feed with the newest updates and
another one with special notifications.<br>
Then we could subscribe by default the feeds in firefox or another
RSS client of your choice.<br>
This would be easier than an application or flooding the freenode
irc with unused registered accounts.<br>
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Just my 2cents.<br>
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I agree in not using IRC, well because my principal idea was based in the use of RSS or ATOM feeds to build an app <div>(Just as you do to build a "feed-gadget" for your blog) and well also maybe we can just reconfigure or build a RSS Client to </div>
<div>parse that Feed for the user and we can enable the autostart for this app in future versions, by example we can do something</div><div>like the OpenSUSE idea: when you start opensuse in the live cd and after the installation it shows a small window talking about </div>
<div>SUSE, Novell and KDE communities, then the user closes it and never appear again. I think we can create the app and "enable"</div><div>this kind of idea, so the future versions of fedora can show an intro to the O.S. and can also give information about the notifier, so the user</div>
<div>can choose to enable and configure it or not. it would be better if we can do this in anaconda, being clear:</div><div><br></div><div>1) We build the app and include it in future versions</div><div><br></div><div>2) We ask the user during the installation process in anaconda if he/she wants to enable the notifier.</div>
<div><br></div><div>3) If the user agree, We ask him/her to configure the options (For example, what kind of news he/she wants to recieve)</div><div><br></div><div>4)Finishing the installation, the app starts if the user agreed to use it and give him a "warm welcome" giving some tips for it's use.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is just a "workaround" to it.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, If the app will need an account it can be IRC or FAS or whatever you want to function but I think this is not necessary. If you like the IRC idea we can use "built-in" IRC integration by adding something like a TAB that connect into the Webchat Freenode IRC... Don't Know...</div>
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