thinking it as a random conflict . The Fedora Bangladesh Community arranged numerous events here to spread Fedora. Even some guys outside of the Ambassador group contributed even more than the ambassadors. <br><br>we local ambassadors here work together. It is caused by a personal issue between a few of us( outside of fedora)<br>
Open source projects are measured by contribution , not by leadership. <br><br>*** we have emailed local linux community and things seems fine among us. ***<br><br>Hope to bring more events together soon!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Paul W. Frields <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com">stickster@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:09:38PM +0000, Tristan Santore wrote:<br>
> On 09/03/11 06:05, mak wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > 2011/3/9 Angel <<a href="mailto:linux463291@gmail.com">linux463291@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:linux463291@gmail.com">linux463291@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > Now I see, why you are mad.<br>
> ><br>
> > 2011/3/9 mak <<a href="mailto:mahayalamkhan@gmail.com">mahayalamkhan@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mahayalamkhan@gmail.com">mahayalamkhan@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > Because, someone is a self proclaimed "leader" of Bangladesh<br>
> > Fedora Community. I wanted to make you aware of that.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > In January 1, 2009, I have officially took permission from Paul<br>
> > Frields (that time Fedora Project Leader) to representing Fedora<br>
> > Officially in Bangladesh. Max was there and the mail was also CC'd<br>
> > to Joerg Simon and Fabian Affolter. Feel free to check the archive<br>
> > of fedora-advisory-board list.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you question, why me, why not you or others? My question is also<br>
> > same, why not you or others? You are a Fedora Ambassador from long<br>
> > long time than me, no one was stopping you to take the lead, and do<br>
> > some work. But the reality was different, I have wrote about this<br>
> > whole situation and my experience on my blog, titled ´Fedora<br>
> > Bangladesh and my Frustration´. I am sure, you have read it.<br>
> ><br>
> > We (all other contributor from Bangladesh) believe in networking and<br>
> > don't like hierarchy, that's why we never felt to be a leader.<br>
> ><br>
> > I feel pity on you; after that all frustration you seek (sneaked) the<br>
> > permission to be the leader. And I wonder how the board approved without<br>
> > asking the Bangladesh community. I'm going to raise the issue in Fedora<br>
> > Board why the hell they didn't asked Bangladesh community. Have the<br>
> > community voted you or voted the board to assign you as our leader? I<br>
> > will ask them.<br>
> ><br>
> > But as being a so called leader, you should have known that, Fedora<br>
> > events should be open to all. Why didn't you guided Mr. Monir on that.<br>
> ><br>
> > The list is public, and people from Bangladesh have started reading this<br>
> > thread.<br>
><br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> Dear All,<br>
><br>
> first of all, I am nowhere near the APNIC region, I do not know any of<br>
> you, I do not work for Red Hat either,but..and here is the big but, I<br>
> have to read this mailing list, and from what I gathered after reading<br>
> through your thread is that:<br>
><br>
> 1.non of you have read each others messages properly.<br>
><br>
> 2. We only have one project leader, and that is Jared.<br>
><br>
> 3. The Fedora Ambassadors programme, is not a personal playground for<br>
> egocentrics, its a community effort to give benefit to the rest of the<br>
> community, not yourselves! So if you missed the whole point of the<br>
> exercise you got it a bit wrong.<br>
><br>
> 4.There is really no need to get personal about matters, random insults<br>
> solve nothing, and in fact, shows more that non of you should be<br>
> ambassadors in the first place. If you cant treat each other right, what<br>
> can we expect from you, in terms of treating fellow Fedora<br>
> users/potential users. Such behaviour is not very professional in any case.<br>
><br>
> 5. In terms of this whole "leader" non-sense, any of you can make an<br>
> event, the event organiser is responsible for making decisions, but<br>
> should seek help from others with experience to hold the event.<br>
> Again, its about serving the community, not yourselves. The more help<br>
> you get from others the better. If you do not agree with somebodies<br>
> event, and how he/she is organising it, stay away and make your own event.<br>
><br>
> If Max, Paul etc.. said you should take "control" to some degree, I am<br>
> sure it was meant in a sense to further the Fedora project as a whole,<br>
> not to tell people what and what not to do or anything along those lines.<br>
><br>
> Naturally, also this does not prevent others from doing events etc..<br>
> We are free people in Fedora, we do what we want within reason, and if<br>
> we don't get funding, we will still hold an event.<br>
<br>
</div></div>By way of background... I can only presume the reference to some sort<br>
of Board blessing was this advisory-board posting:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2009-January/006295.html" target="_blank">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2009-January/006295.html</a><br>
<br>
That posting addresses the use of the Fedora trademark in an entity<br>
name (or domain name). It doesn't grant anyone an exclusive right to<br>
be the sole leader of the Bangladesh community. The message<br>
encouraged having community growth in Bangladesh, but not in an<br>
exclusive way. One person stepped up to offer resources to help grow<br>
community, and I encouraged him to do so.<br>
<br>
The misunderstanding here seems to be that there can be only one<br>
"official" or "legal" representative in a locale. We want the<br>
community in an area to work together. Fedora should be about<br>
collaboration and not power struggle.<br>
<br>
In other words, I basically agree with what Tristan said in his<br>
response. Leadership in Fedora comes from actively getting involved<br>
*and* doing it in a way that is collaborative and cooperative with<br>
your peers. Both elements are part of being an effective leader. And<br>
I continue to believe anyone can be a leader in Fedora by bringing<br>
together both those elements -- (1) putting thought into action, and<br>
(2) doing it in such a way that you are supporting and collaborating<br>
with others.<br>
<br>
Let's take a breath and realize that working together toward common<br>
goals is the best way to continue making Fedora better and better.<br>
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