<font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">El 29 de marzo de 2011 03:40, Fedora Ambassador Membership Administration <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fama@fedoraproject.org">fama@fedoraproject.org</a>></span> escribió:<br>
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Hi Manuel,<br>
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On 03/29/2011 10:45 AM, Manuel Escudero wrote:<br>
> Wow... it seems I've been removed as an ambassador, don't know exacly why.<br>
> See a lot of E-mails but not quite sure about what happened, Can someone<br>
> explain<br>
> me? What should I do now? Who's my mentor? Exactly Why is this happening?<br>
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</div>I am sorry, we got several complains about Fedora Ambassador Conduct<br>
Violations while your work as a official representative for the Fedora<br>
Project, within the Fedora Infrastructure (Fedora Planet)<br>
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<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct</a><br>
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<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items</a><br>
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I found them valid (Microsoft and flash posts, wrong technical advice)<br>
and saw also the recent approach to help you from Maria - who was your<br>
initial Mentor - to clarify why you should not post forbidden items as<br>
an Ambassador and to filter that information out of the Fedora<br>
Infrastructure.<br>
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FAmSCo as the legislative to shape the Conduct and the Forbidden Items<br>
made the rules.<br>
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I am in charge as the Fedora Ambassador Membership Administrator, if you<br>
want to blame someone personally for the decission itself, i am<br>
accountable for that decission!<br>
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You are NOT removed from the Ambassadors Group - you are back in<br>
mentoring state, because we think you are a valuable contributor but<br>
need some more mentoring about the duties of a official Spokesman for<br>
the Fedora Project. We have a own conduct which restricts ourself as<br>
long as we act as Fedora Ambassadors. As "normal" Contributor of course<br>
you have every freedom to post legal content you want. As Ambassador you<br>
should filter forbidden items this was told you already as far as i am<br>
informed.<br>
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kind regards Joerg<br>
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Fedora Ambassador Membership Administration<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br><div>@jsimon: Don't know What to say, speechless...<div>Wrong technical advice? is this because of the discussion</div><div>with that "Cristoph" guy? Oh!, never tought there were this kind of</div>
<div>intolerant people inside the Linux Communities Ecosystem...</div><div><br></div><div>Did you read all the Mails?</div><div><br></div><div>First of all, the technical advise I give to people is always tested first by me</div>
<div>and I always explain what it does, PROS, CONS, everything. The people have a </div><div>choice, I always ensure they knowing what they're doing, and my advices work!</div><div><br></div><div>But okey... ¿Microsoft and Flash posts? (Oh yeah, this is because of the Cristoph guy...)</div>
<div>Well, my "Windows 7 post" was created because I tought some fedora users with VM's might be</div><div>interested in knowing how to tweak the horrible appereance of seven in their VM's, because</div>
<div>THERE ARE Fedora users with Windows 7 in their VM's, I'm one of them.</div><div><br></div><div>Flash posts? Of course I make flash posts... Any "Normal user", no matter what platform they use,</div>
<div>USE FLASH you know? Sorry, but "Gnash" it's not mature enough... I just want to say, Why would</div><div>I advice my users to use something that don't fit their needs because it's "more free" than other alternative?</div>
<div><br></div><div>People have CHOICE, and that's why they use Linux, Windows, MacOS, or don't know, they wear jeans some days...</div><div>I don't want to be a Fedora Ambassador if it means "become intolerant and a radical fanatic of free software, telling people</div>
<div>to avoid using their choice right"...</div><div><br></div><div>Some people talk about Linux trolls, communty segmentation, Hate Between users, but if I came to Fedora</div><div>is because I tought here, the thing would be different that the way the world is used to see Linux communities...</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm kinda dissapointed with what I found... I use Linux because I love freedom and of course free software,</div><div>But freedom isn't about telling people what to do in their own benefit (example use Linux instead of Windows, because last one is crap</div>
<div>or: Linux User, Use Gnash because Flash and Adobe are enemies of our philosophy) Freedom, for me, is about having a Choice of do with</div><div>your life whatever you want watching not to hurt other's freedom...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thinking of Freedom like "Using only Free software and avoiding talking about our enemies" as some people</div><div>like stallman does, is kinda fascist. As I said in other mail to the Cristoph guy:</div>
<div>it's like criticizing a gay couple with children because they're different than your family or</div><div>not talking/talking bad things about someone just because he/she do not has your same religious beliefs and</div>
<div>you think you're right and he/she is not. In the moment you attack other people because of the choices they made</div><div>or even if you get angry because of that, it doesn't matter how "free" your cause is, because, due to your radicalism</div>
<div>you're shrinking people's freedom without even realizing it.</div><div><br></div><div>Fascism has drove humankind to their darkest hours in their history, with characters like Hitler. Respect the </div><div>
lifes of other members and having a little more open mind would be the first principle/rule of ANY Linux Community, </div>
<div>Because Linux is about REAL FREEDOM, Not the definition of Freedon that a little group of radical people have...</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not going to be a Fedora Ambassador to tell the people to shrink their freedom.</div>
<div>I WANT to be a Fedora Ambassador to tell them, "You have Choice, Use Linux and Fedora"...</div><div><br></div><div>What is happening here with me, it's kinda unfair, but not going to argue with people that</div>
<div>don't even Know me...</div><div><br></div><div>Have a Nice Day.</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Yep, Maria Told me, I Tried to delete the post from the planet but I wasn't able</div><div>to do That... Nobody told me how to do that, cristoph guy and now you just sat on their chairs</div>
<div>and start throwing this crap at me...</div><div><br></div><div>All this "filth" is coming to me in hard times in my life right now, many bad luck and problems</div><div>lately, I don't even want to fight you anymore... GoodBye.</div>
<div><br>-- <br><-Manuel Escudero-><br>Linux User #509052<br>@GWave: <a href="mailto:jmlevick@googlewave.com">jmlevick@googlewave.com</a><br>@Blogger: <a href="http://www.blogxenode.tk/">http://www.blogxenode.tk/</a> (Xenode Systems Blog)<br>
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