Hi,<div><br></div><div>I had been reading this thread along, discussed with the China community on mailing lists and during our weekly meetings. This is not surprised to see the APAC countries with the most population are making the bid. It is no doubt that which bid won to hold FUDCon, will benefit the community of such country and surround regions. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Personally, even I am a member of Chinese community, I am hereby supporting India for FUDCon 2011. China is just not ready for having a FUDCon this year. These are the my reasons:</div><div><br clear="all">
<ol><li>Lack of local ambassadors - According to <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification</a> , there are only 6 (10 if Hong Kong FAms are included). Compare to 39 in India, it is approximately 5 times difference. This is just the head number only, please see point 2.<br>
<br></li><li>Lack of FUDCon (even FAD) experience - India has done FUDCon in past and several FAD are happening throughout the year. And China just has her first FAD (at Guang Zhou) which went the reimbursement process with FAmSCo. As it can be shown from the quantity and quality of information in wiki pages of both bids, conservatively India has 2 times of preparation served for this event than China.<br>
<br></li><li>Lack of supports from Red Hat - Red Hat China Office (Beijing) had not supported domestic Fedora activities for years. AFAIK, there had been no financial/swag/people supports ever from Beijing office for organizing community activities. Fedora Chinese User Group (FZUG) contacted RH China requested collaboration to boost the growth of Fedora community but cold or nil response received. Some of the FZUG members / FAms instead contacted directly to Community Architecture Team in RH US headquarter or Singapore office for assistance. Now when Beijing office heard about the bid of FUDCon 2011 and becomes extremely excited to promote their "exposure" in open source community, eagerly offers hands. Remember, no FAD were supported by Beijing office ever except a couple of her staff attended a couple of meetups voluntary only in years.</li>
</ol><div>Above reasons justify the great risk that FUDCon will be very likely failed if it is held in China this year. In terms of the gap between India and China in width and depth, the difficulty to make successful FUDCon 2011 in China is 10+ times higher than in India. Assume the point 1 and 2 can be coped at the end, I do doubt that RH China office can keep their interest in growth of community after the event. An one off fragile event with no after plan to sustain the heat, is a waste of annual FUDCon APAC chance. We want a FUDCon for Fedora event, not a RH event.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>My suggestions is let India do FUDCon 2011, and China's focus on this year:</div><div><br></div><div><ol><li>Recruits more ambassadors</li><li>Raises technical levels of contributors/users/developers for talks</li>
<li>Organizes FADs with media, swags, reimbursement processes</li><li>Build up the link between community and RH China (w/ US, Singapore offices are just not enough!), but this involve participation from both sides</li><li>
Makes all above an iteration</li></ol></div><div>Yes, China still need to compete among other bids in 2012, so it is necessary to act right now. Good luck to India and China, will be glad to the results and be proud of the transparency.</div>
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