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On 04/05/12 10:37, gabriele trombini wrote:
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<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">In data venerdì 4 maggio
2012 17:36:45, Prima Yogi Loviniltra ha scritto:</p>
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after all of these exist (portal, forum, irc, mailing list) then
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fedora.or.id"><span
style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 87, 174);">fedora.or.id</span></a>
come back to earth, and we (contributor in <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://id.fc.org"><span
style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 87, 174);">id.fc.org</span></a>)
have an idea to unite us under Fedora Indonesia but <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fedora.or.id"><span
style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 87, 174);">fedora.or.id</span></a>
rejected it and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://fedora.or.id"><span style="text-decoration:
underline; color: rgb(0, 87, 174);">fedora.or.id</span></a>
also banned us (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://id.fc.org"><span style="text-decoration:
underline; color: rgb(0, 87, 174);">id.fc.org</span></a>)
from facebook page and forum..<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="result_box"></a>from me and
other friends just want the best for fedora Indonesia with our
union that is highly desirable, but if there are still those who
persist with the ego didn't want to unite, we can do anything,
and this is the end of that is by our own way...</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">The regional communities
should be under the same flag but sometimes this is not possible
due to a different background or a war between users or
contributors.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Fedora can only lose, so
I think that is important reaching an agreement after a
discussion for clarification.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Only understanding each
other you can solve the problem, and each contender has to lose
something.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">So, in your country,
Fedora can be supported as well.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">mailga</p>
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First of all, you guys are supposed to serve the community, that
includes people you might not agree with! You do not ban people or
act otherwise against those people, unless they are spammers and
keep inserting spam links into your pages. if you do not like
somebodies opinion, try and persuade others with good arguments,
that your way is the right way (without shouting or fighting).<br>
The person that raises his/her voice is usually wrong.<br>
<br>
If you folks in Indonesia cannot act like adults, and work for the
interest of Fedora as a whole, then there is a very simple solution
to the childish bickering.<br>
And that simple solution is, to just gain control of the
fedora.xxx.id domains of any kind and slip it into Fedora's own
control.<br>
<br>
But that is not why the Fedora community sites for local areas was
drawn up. it was to give you all greater control to promote Fedora
in your areas.<br>
<br>
I suggest you guys either set up a Steering Committee, which votes
on different arguments and proposals. If that does not work, or you
are too Childish to set something like that up, because of
in-fighting, then I am sure that FAMSco and the Fedora Board, can
happily make that decision for you.<br>
<br>
Quite honestly, if you are not mature enough to handle this
yourselves, then you should all ask yourselves, if you should be
Fedora ambassadors at all! It is not about you! It is about Free and
Opensource Software and in our case, Fedora and the general public,
who want to learn and better themselves. Think about what the
general public think about your bickering and in-fighting!<br>
<br>
I hope I gave you guys the impetus to have a good serious thought
about what this should be really about!<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Tristan<br>
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