Not even using the only numbers is possible to identify the Fedora improvements in the time, maybe can do that only with its age. <br>Actually i see Fedora 16, 17, 18 too detached by its code names (Verne, Beefy Miracle, Spherical Cow respectively), as were for the older releases, but i respected this tradition. <br>
<br>Is for this reason that i have suggested the Roman Emperors names for Fedora. :)<br><br>Creating an imaginary line (Fedora Codename Theme) that connects all the releases in the time (in addition to the "cold numbers") , we can identify more easily a release in my opinion. Over to match a specific release with an its particular feature, for example <br>
<br><u>Fedora 20 Trajan released with Grub 3.0, then Fedora 21 Hadrian (Hadrian is a successor of Trajan) released with Grub 3.1</u><br><br>Too bizarre ? :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/14 Jukka Palander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jukka@devspain.com" target="_blank">jukka@devspain.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 13:29 -0500, inode0 wrote:<br>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Jukka Palander <<a href="mailto:jukka@devspain.com" target="_blank">jukka@devspain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:58 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:<br>
> >> On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 01:39 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:<br>
> >> > I've put up a wiki page that tries to summarize the answers to the first two<br>
> >> > questions that I've seen circulated on the advisory-board mailing list and a<br>
> >> > link to the only proposal I currently know of (mizmo's proposal to use<br>
> >> > a single theme for all of the new Fedora releases).<br>
> >><br>
> >> I didn't see a link to the wiki page here or elsewhere in the thread so:<br>
> >><br>
> >> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Future_Release_Naming" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Future_Release_Naming</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> If you are interested please add your name to the list so we can move<br>
> >> forward.<br>
> >><br>
> >> ~m<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I had a thought on this and I would like to ask _why name them at all_<br>
> > because we already _number_ them?<br>
><br>
> We already name them, so why bother numbering them at all? :)<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Yes. Completely agree. One (of them) has to go!<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> > Fedora Name+number or Fedora number+name sounds like having toast on<br>
> > toast to me. People will use the number anyhow when discussing things<br>
> > around Fedora. Such as "I'm still running Fedora 15" rather than "I'm<br>
> > still running Fedora<br>
> > fancy-name-where-no-one-remembers-what-release-it-was".<br>
><br>
> No one is ever going to remember or use the release name as long as<br>
> the Fedora Project on its own website and elsewhere hardly ever<br>
> mentions it while sticking Fedora <insert some meaningless number<br>
> here> in our faces. If we referred to our releases by name so would<br>
> other people.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Why they have to (put them to) remember the "release name" when we have<br>
an _advantage_ for the number to be remembered _automatically_?<br>
<br>
Numbers has one very good reason to be in there: By numbering people<br>
will know _immediately_ which one is the latest and newest! By naming<br>
"no-one" remembers how old the release is until checked from the release<br>
history.<br>
<br>
In example I could not remember which was and when out from from these:<br>
<br>
-Tettnang<br>
-Laughlin<br>
-Constantine<br>
-Moonshire<br>
-Lovelock<br>
-Leonidas<br>
<br>
Just put those _QUICKLY_ in the right order without referring into the<br>
page:<br>
<a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names</a><br>
<br>
It is just _soooooooo much_ easier to say that number 14 must be OLD(er)<br>
than 16 and that already is without support.<br>
<br>
Fancy names do not do much good and double naming is completely idiotic.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> The release name's purpose is not to be used that way though, it never<br>
> has been intended for that as our website demonstrates. The fact that<br>
> few people refer to the release name when discussing Fedora isn't<br>
> really relevant to whether we should have a release name. It certainly<br>
> wasn't the standard of value used prior to now.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Why the release name is in there then? ..not for the "website<br>
demonstrates" (whatever it means) and not for the discussions (when<br>
people _will_ say the _number_ what they are using or suggesting instead<br>
than _name_) ??? Please tell me why, why?<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> John<br>
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</div>I strongly suggest that we should go into our own paths and simply throw<br>
"naming" to the bin. If other distributions (whatever OS) keep their<br>
naming, why should we do the same?<br>
We want to be first and in here we can be first to go out from those<br>
stupid names. We could (and should) simplify things in here as well.<br>
<br>
...and by making things simple for the common users; It really is the<br>
Fedora way!<br>
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