Honestly, <div><br></div><div>And please don't take this the wrong way.</div><div><br></div><div>As a fedora packager, member of QA, and ambassador I feel like someone that lives in the housing projects.</div><div><br>
</div><div>If Fedora is only supposed to be used for solar cars and robots then I should be running RHEL I guess.</div><div><br></div><div>Beth, I'll see you there if nothing comes of it. I'll be calling their sales team on Tuesday. Would you like to exchange contact information and come up with a proposal/deliverables/agenda for the powers that be?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Dan <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:32 PM, inode0 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com" target="_blank">inode0@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Beth Lynn Eicher<br>
<<a href="mailto:bethlynn@fedoraproject.org">bethlynn@fedoraproject.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM, inode0 <<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com">inode0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:15 AM, inode0 <<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com">inode0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Dan Mashal <<a href="mailto:dan.mashal@gmail.com">dan.mashal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Does Fedora or Red Hat have any plans to have some kind of exhibit for CES<br>
>>>> 2013?<br>
>>><br>
>>> No.<br>
>><br>
>> I don't have any idea what Red Hat might have for plans but Fedora<br>
>> doesn't have any plans to attend at this point.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> I was at CES 2012 and I am registered for 2013.<br>
><br>
> Red Hat and Fedora were not.<br>
><br>
> Canonical was present. The booth was staffed with people who were<br>
> making no apologies for their proprietary products, in fact they were<br>
> pushing them. They were showing off Ubuntu on ARM, Ubuntu One, Ubuntu<br>
> corporate desktop support, and Ubuntu TV. It is worth mentioning, that<br>
> they were all out of media and stickers since the community<br>
> constituency was in attendance.<br>
><br>
> Microsoft was present but it was heavily rumored that they would not<br>
> exhibit in 2013 because they were not guaranteed their CEO a keynote<br>
> spot. I was also at the Steve Balmer's final CES keynote in 2012 where<br>
> Windows 8 was hyped. Trust me, I face palmed when Microsoft took<br>
> credit for innovations that I have seen in Free Software.<br>
<br>
</div>The picture you paint is the picture I have in my mind although I have<br>
never attended CES, one only interested in open source for the ways<br>
they might be able to use it to their economic advantage. Perhaps it<br>
isn't fair for me to hope for anything more but I feel like I do see<br>
more when I attend SELF, OLF, TXLF. Given that a reasonable presence<br>
at CES would cost more than we spend on SELF, OLF, and TXLF combined I<br>
am having a hard time supporting funding that given our limited<br>
budget.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I'm going to +1 Fedora @ CES2013. Many embedded products that run the<br>
> Linux kernel are there. Moreover, there is abundant evidence that<br>
> today's slot machines use GNU/Linux. The success of Sugar on OLPC<br>
> hardware proves that Fedora is a fine choice for deployments that must<br>
> work in the long haul.<br>
<br>
</div>I would rather take that money and do something directly with people<br>
doing cool hacking on solar cars or robots than slot machines and<br>
routers. My two cents.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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