<p>+1</p>
<p>Enviado do meu Android.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Em 21/08/2013 05:58, "Zoltan Hoppar" <<a href="mailto:hopparz@gmail.com">hopparz@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Makes easier for every mentor this step. So +1.<br>
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Zoltan<br>
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2013/8/21 Paul Mellors <<a href="mailto:prjmellors@gmail.com">prjmellors@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> I like that idea too Scott....<br>
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> On 21 August 2013 07:49, Scott Williams <<a href="mailto:vwfoxguru@gmail.com">vwfoxguru@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 07/09/2013 05:37 AM, Robert Mayr wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2013/7/9 Christoph Wickert <<a href="mailto:christoph.wickert@gmail.com">christoph.wickert@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>> [snip]<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Am Dienstag, den 09.07.2013, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Joerg Simon:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> crossposted also to the famsco list as a heads up<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> i want to put the current Ambassador mentoring and membership process<br>
>>>>> up<br>
>>>>> to dicussion - if i see the solid base of mentors we have today, we<br>
>>>>> should consider to give the mentors sponsorship rights.<br>
>>><br>
>>> [snip]<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> With the current process the *last step* of a mentor is, that he gives<br>
>>>>> his *thumbs up in the tickets system* . After that, the FAmA sponsors<br>
>>>>> the candidate in FAS and closes the ticket. I think we should give the<br>
>>>>> Mentors who are doing the hard mentoring work, the recognition to<br>
>>>>> sponsor their own candidates.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I totally agree, there are a lot of good reasons. Let me summarize and<br>
>>>> add a few new ones:<br>
>>>> * We should share the workload.<br>
>>>> * We should not have a single point of failure.<br>
>>>> * The mentors do all the work of the sponsoring process, in<br>
>>>> return<br>
>>>> they should be rewarded with more recognition and<br>
>>>> responsibility.<br>
>>>> * Sponsoring somebody and closing his ticket is just a few<br>
>>>> clicks.<br>
>>>> No big deal for a mentor, but it can become a lot of work for a<br>
>>>> single person.<br>
>>>> * As the mentors are filing the tickets, they should also close<br>
>>>> them.<br>
>>>> * The process would be consistent with all the other groups where<br>
>>>> sponsors == mentors.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>>> Christoph<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [1] <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/fama/" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/fama/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> I agree with all the points Christoph said and indeed it's a question<br>
>>> new candidates sometimes ask: why, when candidates finish mentoring<br>
>>> with a "thumbs up", they aren't sponsored immediately?<br>
>>> From the 1st of June we also changed a lot of the mentoring process,<br>
>>> giving more responsibility to the single mentor and letting him<br>
>>> administrate the ticket process from the creation to the "thumbs up"<br>
>>> state. Sponsoring his candidate definitely, after having spent often a<br>
>>> lot of time with the new ambassador, would be grateful for the mentor<br>
>>> on one side, and would be the logical end of the mentoring process for<br>
>>> the candidate on the other side.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Therefore I would totally agree with Jörg's proposal.<br>
>>> Greetings.<br>
>>><br>
>> As a mentor, just thought I'd give my $.02 and say that being able to<br>
>> sponsor in Trac would be a helpful bonus. That way we can tell the mentee<br>
>> that they're in when they're ready instead of explaining the last bit of red<br>
>> tape, which less face it, has been largely ceremonial.<br>
>><br>
>> Scott<br>
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