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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hello Everyone,<br><br>> IMHO, better have a well-maintained implementation on one platform<br>than lousy one on several.<br><br>Concur 100%.<br><br>I am working about five versions of kernels on my Fedora systems and I really enjoy the experience. ;)<br><br>Sending positive Fedora energy from my computers to yours!!! :)<br><br>David<br><br>> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:23:17 +0200<br>> From: fab@fedoraproject.org<br>> To: ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org<br>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] To all Ambassadors and Fedora Contributors<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>> <br>> On 07/30/2014 06:18 PM, Iosif Bancioiu wrote:<br>> > Maybe you know that there are 2 big companies building PLC and PLC <br>> > Platforms for industrial automation systems, Delta PLC and Siemens<br>> > PLC.<br>> <br>> Well, there are others...like Beckhoff [1] and they support, as far as<br>> remember, with ADS and/or a kernel driver the communication between a<br>> linux host and their hardware. Only speaking about the communication<br>> and not IDE.<br>> <br>> > Recently I've got an Delta DVP-10SX and they only support Windows<br>> > for WPL Soft and ISP Soft, the platforms used to develop software<br>> > for their PLC. I tried to install and use it under Wine but I'm<br>> > unable to get COM ports to work inside those apps. (I'm able to see<br>> > in other apps but not inside those). I contacted them to ask about<br>> > Linux Support and they told me that they have requests from Russia<br>> > for porting ISP and WPL Soft to Linux.<br>> <br>> The issue here is that PLCs are only interesting for a very small<br>> target audience, the industrial automation guys. It's possible to get<br>> hands on this kind of hardware but it's not a cheap endeavor<br>> (referring to Siemens here). I think that a Soft-PLC can not be easily<br>> ported to another platform because their are special requirements<br>> (protocols, real-time, etc.) which are are to fulfill.<br>> <br>> > They asked me to provide them some statistics about Linux Systems <br>> > numbers in Industrial use because they are open for this, they take<br>> > in consideration to support Linux.<br>> <br>> If there is a linux tool that customers can use to program their PLC,<br>> they will probably start using linux. My experience is that they still<br>> will use the windows version because all other tools (speaking about<br>> CAD, CAE, et al) are not available for other platforms that windows.<br>> <br>> > I would like if you can do some research in your country regarding<br>> > this.<br>> <br>> It's very unlikely that you can get accurate data without investing a<br>> lot of time.<br>> <br>> > Is time for Linux to be supported by one of the bigest PLC<br>> > builders.<br>> <br>> IMHO, better have a well-maintained implementation on one platform<br>> than lousy one on several.<br>> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> <br>> Fabian<br>> <br>> [1] http://www.beckhoff.com<br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v1<br>> <br>> iEYEARECAAYFAlPo/AIACgkQ4jzS3TakOX/hjwCeJ0JrzN4ar3wqUBWRypdZsF68<br>> PrQAn1pm7P1Xmjy5zvuo2htmZEwTBFbV<br>> =uR/l<br>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> --<br>> ambassadors mailing list<br>> ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org<br>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors<br>                                            </div></body>
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