[fedora-arm] Who's using Kirkwood?

[Till Maas]

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 08:54:26AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Till Maas <opensource at till.name> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 02:53:45PM -0400, Scott Sullivan wrote:
> >> On 10/08/2012 02:35 PM, Till Maas wrote:

> Well you could always step up to help improve that documentation
> rather than complain ;-)

I already started after I wrote the email. But it is hard to enhance it,
if I do not know why certain decisions have been made or why the images
are the way they are.

> > From my outsider POV the ARM SIG looks not very organised which makes it
> > also hard to help now and then. For example I would more or less reduce
> > the wiki install contents to the difference to the shown Debian
> > documentation to avoid duplicate content and trust that they chose sane
> > values, for example for the uboot version and the uboot config. But then
> > it is unclear whether Fedora needs a different uboot config.
> 
> It's not so much a lack of organisation but rather a lack of people to
> do things. There's about 6 of us that do things regularly and between
> us we might make up the equivalent of 1.5 full time people.
> 
> Those of us that are actively working on it are having a hard time
> just keeping up with core tasks of building a some what working distro
> let alone producing a lovely working polished wiki with step by step
> howtos for the 100s of devices out there.

The debian docs showed, that not so much different documentation is
needed for the different devices. For example the Guru Plug
documentation seems to mostly cover the dockstar or other kirkwood
devices already. But the way it was written it implied at least for me,
that it contains special steps only required/working on a Guru Plug. For
example the page said the image needs to be dumped on a SD card. But a
USB stick works as well and I guess an eSATA device, too.

> We are well aware that there are issues with documentation and a whole
> lot of other things. We're working through things as time and
> materials are available. All help is welcome including improving the
> howtos and documentation on supporting each device. I would absolutely
> love someone with ideas on improving the way the wiki is laid out for
> things like device support howto  to step up and implement the general
> layout framework with some place holders for various devices so
> interested people with those devices can add appropriate information.

Imho an easy step would be to for example just use the debian docs as
reference and only hightlight differences. For the example that Fedora
does not support using an installer on ARM but only pre compiled disk
images and that they use VFAT for /boot to support proprietary uboot
systems. This is less work than to re-write everything that is already
in the debian docs.

Regards
Till