<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 July 2014 02:16, Christian Schaller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cschalle@redhat.com" target="_blank">cschalle@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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> From: "Stephen John Smoogen" <<a href="mailto:smooge@gmail.com">smooge@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> We will hopefully be better able to measure usage of<br>
> workstation/server/cloud/everything better in the next release if each<br>
> release will give some indication to yum or dnf that the person is updating<br>
> from that 'platform'.<br>
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</div></div>Well I don't think we will ever find a perfect and 100% accurate measure,<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree on that. I would prefer that we have some things that can be 'certainty'</div>
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so what we would need to do instead is pick a set of indicators to watch<br>
like a combination of overall tracked Fedora product downloads during a release series,<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For your future reference, product downloads is a bad indicator. Most of our downloads are via mirrors which we can't track. The main download server is usually 60-80% mirrors, 5-15% development downloads for various machs and kojis out there.. and I am guessing the rest is direct downloads but it is hard to say. The only thing we can track is yum updates as they pull various meta-data from the proxies.. Even then it is noisy and you have to choose which filters to use to possibly clean out noise. </div>
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pick a few conferences to poll the attendees about operating system usage (JBoss<br>
and OpenStack conferences could possibly be good choices while GUADEC, Akademy<br>
or Flock would likely be bad choices :)) and Google trends for example. So none<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Get this done by a third party and you should be golden. Doing pools/surveys with your own people brings in so many biases and problems that the data isn't worth the time it took to get. [Sorry too much psychology training on this..]</div>
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of them would give us a 100% accurate answer, but combined we should be able to<br>
at least detect trends from them.<br>
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Of course the exact indicator composition would wary a bit between the 3 products.<br>
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Christian<br>
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-- <br><div dir="ltr">Stephen J Smoogen.<br><br></div>
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