<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 August 2014 15:49, Paul W. Frields <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com" target="_blank">stickster@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:07:51PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:<br>
> On 18 August 2014 14:31, Carl Trieloff <<a href="mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com">cctrieloff@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On 08/17/2014 09:13 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:<br>
> > > It is a problem with the Board structure because there have been many<br>
> > > people who have been on the board who have tried to do things only to<br>
> > > find that the board does not have any 'power' to enact anything.<br>
> ><br>
> > The best leadership does not use executive power to make things happen.<br>
> > Vision, common purpose, supporting culture, ability to try and<br>
> > fail/learn, and some metric to understand if progress is being made is<br>
> > far more effective leadership. To me the discussion is to keep the<br>
> > current passive parts the board does, but to take on a former mentioned<br>
> > in a active role to facilitate for the project.<br>
> ><br>
> > Hope that makes sense.<br>
> > Carl.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> It does. However the best leadership will not get anything done if there is<br>
> no one willing to help out or no budget to pay for the resources that the<br>
> people need to enact things. What happens is in those cases is that the<br>
> leadership or people leave to find the places where they can get the<br>
> resources they need. We have been very good about being able enact small<br>
> things that don't require a lot of resources but anything larger needing<br>
> long term focus, more than a couple of volunteers and a laptop... we tend<br>
> to fall apart quickly around the 6 week mark. Various people think that the<br>
> Board (or being a member of the Board) can fix that but it had none of the<br>
> tools either.<br>
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</div>Interestingly I think you're speaking directly (and well) to a point I<br>
mentioned earlier about the FPL's ability to bring in other roles as<br>
needed. What if that included someone with actual funding power?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that would help many areas where long term continuity is needed. </div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">
Stephen J Smoogen.<br><br></div>
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