if I may jump in; there's already an official fedora package in the works for euca2ools I believe (that's what drives Robert's need for python-boto, correct?). I'm sure he'd love help from the Eucalyptus folk with it.<div>
<br></div><div>I've offered to help Robert co-maintain the python-boto package, since I use python-boto directly instead of just as something a different tool uses. There is a process for becoming an official packager; your wait would likely be shorter than mine since you are an upstream package maintainer already (I've just started the process myself, and am not an upstream provider). I'd love to help you out myself; let me know and I can work with your team to get additional packages in to Fedora.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I should note however that I don't currently use Eucalyptus, to be honest, though it's almost entirely because it isn't well integrated with Fedora and managing my current setup isn't hard with my internal tools. I will soon need to use something external to manage our rapidly growing clouds though, so working to get Eucalyptus working well on Fedora is something I could likely get my employer to OK as during-business-hours work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>At the very least, you should consider joining the meeting on Thursday; likely you could get all your questions answered and worked out then.</div><div><br></div><div>Brian LaMere</div><div><br></div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:37 PM, graziano obertelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:graziano@eucalyptus.com">graziano@eucalyptus.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Matt,<br>
<br>
we would love to be able to coordinate with Fedora about Fedora's and our<br>
releases and web page (where to file bugs and where to find packages): are<br>
you the right person to coordinate with?<br>
<br>
We already have one engineer looking into the euca2ools packages. He<br>
already reached out to the euca2ools packages and we hope to have only one<br>
package soon.<br>
<br>
How do you think we should proceed for Eucalyptus? Is it possible to have<br>
a 'mentor' to help us get Eucalyptus into Fedora?<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<font color="#888888">graziano<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 01:03:52PM -0500, Matt_Domsch@Dell.com wrote:<br>
> You are correct, packaging guidelines would prohibit bundling in libraries. But with over 9000 packages in the repositories, developers and packagers have found that it's not (in general) that hard a bar to get over. At a quick glance:<br>
><br>
> Euca2ools:<br>
><br>
> You package in python-boto, which is already in Fedora. It should be trivial to stop bundling this, and simply RPM requires: it.<br>
> Your package has a requirement on m2crypto, which is already in Fedora, so that's easy.<br>
><br>
> Eucalyptus:<br>
> You bundle in axis2c and rampartc, and neither are in Fedora, but you package them separately so it's quite possible they could be included in Fedora directly.<br>
> Eucalyptus-common-java has a bunch of JARs, most of which you shouldn't be bundling I think. But that's the worst of it.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Matt Domsch<br>
> Technology Strategist<br>
> Dell | Office of the CTO<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org">cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org">cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>] On Behalf Of graziano obertelli<br>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:23 AM<br>
> To: Fedora Cloud SIG<br>
> Subject: Re: Eucalyptus 2.0 and Fedora<br>
><br>
> Of course we would love to do so. My understanding is that out packages won't be included as they are, since we package a lot of our dependencies into them and we don't have the expertise or capabilities to package and maintain all the dependencies.<br>
><br>
> If I'm mistaken, and such pacakges are allowed. please let me know and we'll readily start the process.<br>
><br>
> cheers,<br>
> graziano<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:30:08AM -0500, Matt_Domsch@Dell.com wrote:<br>
> > Will you be submitting your packages into the standard Fedora package collection, as you have with Ubuntu?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Matt<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Matt Domsch<br>
> > Technology Strategist<br>
> > Dell | Office of the CTO<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org">cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org">cloud-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>] On Behalf Of graziano<br>
> > obertelli<br>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:47 PM<br>
> > To: Fedora Cloud SIG<br>
> > Subject: Eucalyptus 2.0 and Fedora<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello,<br>
> ><br>
> > I just wanted to mentioned that with the release of Eucalyptus 2.0 [1] we are now providing packages for Fedora. We have been providing a Fedora image for sometime now (albeit is a fairly old version of Fedora), and we are happy to be able now to provide packages for Fedora.<br>
> ><br>
> > Feel free to send me any comment about the packages, or any other Eucalyptus related question.<br>
> ><br>
> > cheers,<br>
> > graziano<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > [1]<br>
> > <a href="http://open.eucalyptus.com/news/2010-08-24-eucalyptus-20-now-available" target="_blank">http://open.eucalyptus.com/news/2010-08-24-eucalyptus-20-now-available</a><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Graziano Obertelli<br>
> > Eucalyptus Systems, Inc.<br>
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Eucalyptus Systems, Inc.<br>
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