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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/25/2012 07:07 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Here's the details for the form I'm going to submit. Would appreciate your
input, especially on the Highlights. My comments in [brackets].</pre>
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All in all, I think it looks reasonably decent. I have some comments
on some of the descriptions - I think the Overview page on the wiki
has a lot of usefulness in terms of description of
community/product.<br>
<br>
My other note is that - esp. in the "company description" since it's
the page about "fedora" the distro - we should probably be more
consistent in our references to Fedora vs. the Fedora Project - <br>
<br>
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<a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview</a><br>
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<pre wrap="">
Company Description:
The Fedora Project is a worldwide community of people who love, use, and
build free software. We want to lead in the creation and spread of free
code and content by working together as a community. Fedora is sponsored
by Red Hat, the world's most trusted provider of open source technology.
Red Hat invests in Fedora to encourage collaboration and incubate
innovative new free software technologies.</pre>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 18px;
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important; float: none; "></span><br>
Maybe... and can we break it up into 2 paragraphs?<br>
<br>
The Fedora Project is a worldwide, open partnership of free software
contributors and enthusiasts. Our mission is to lead the
advancement of free and open source software and content as a
collaborative community.<br>
<br>
The Fedora Project is primarily sponsored by Red Hat, the world's
most trusted provider of open source technology. (I'm not quite
sold on your last line re: why red hat invests, but can go either
way, I'm not too picky)<br>
<br>
One thing to consider: Is it worth highlighting more specifically
that Fedora is the upstream for RHEL?<br>
<br>
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<pre wrap="">
Software By:
Fedora Project
Title:
Fedora 17
Version Title:
Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) 2012.05.15
[Note: I put the date there because I'd like to leave open the option of
updated image spins. Open to suggestions on how best to do this.]</pre>
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That's fine, though I think it would be good to make clear that it's
not something like a "nightly image" kind of thing. We don't have to
drill into details on "how we'd do that" right now, I agree it's
useful to keep the option open. <br>
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<pre wrap="">
Release Notes:
Official Fedora Cloud image.
Description:
Fedora is a Linux-based operating system built on our community's four
foundations: freedom, features, friends, and first. The Fedora Cloud image
in EC2 provides a functional core on top of which any of tens of thousands
of free and open source software packages can be easily added.</pre>
</blockquote>
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<i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-variant: normal;
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orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); ">Fedora</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
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255); display: inline !important; float: none; "><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is a Linux-based
operating system that provides<span class="Apple-converted-space">
</span></span><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base"
title="User base" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
rgb(114, 159, 207); text-decoration: none; font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); ">a wide audience of users</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0,
0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: 18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important; float: none; "><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>with access to the latest<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a class="external
text" href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html"
style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 13px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 102,
187); text-decoration: none; background-image:
url(http://fedoraproject.org/w/skins/fedora/external.png);
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 18px;
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-position: 100% 50%;
background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">free and open source
software</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">, in a<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA" title="QA" style="margin:
0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(114, 159, 207); text-decoration:
none; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style:
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: 18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); ">stable</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">,<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features"
title="Security/Features" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color:
rgb(114, 159, 207); text-decoration: none; font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); ">secure</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height:
18px; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline ! important;
float: none;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and easy
to manage form. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: 18px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important; float: none; "><span
class="Apple-converted-space">The Fedora cloud image in EC2
(blah blah blah, what you have above)<br>
</span></span>
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<pre wrap="">
Highlight1:
Free and Open Source: built by a collaborative community using entirely
free software.
Highlight2:
Core Image Ready to Build Upon: use yum to add any of tens of thousands of
software packages, or drop in your own code.
[Avoid "minimal", because it isn't. Should I use a more precise count of
packages?]
Highlight3:
NEED SOMETHING HERE
[Security? Fedora-ness? Values? Highlight some particlar awesomness?]
Support Offered:
FALSE
[This is a boolean. We _do_ offer community support, of course. Should
maybe be true?]</pre>
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh. That seems misleading, I think to have it as true. <br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Support Detail:
Community supported. Visit Ask Fedora (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ask.fedoraproject.org/">http://ask.fedoraproject.org/</a>), or
get involved by joining the Fedora Cloud SIG
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG</a>). You can help us make Fedora in
the Cloud even more awesome for everyone.
Product Category1:
Operating System
Product Category2:
[blank]
Search Keywords:
open source, free, core
Image URL:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#cloud">http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#cloud</a>
Resource1 Name & Resource1 URL:
Fedora Project
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/">https://fedoraproject.org/</a>
Resource2 Name & Resource2 URL:
Fedora Cloud SIG
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG</a>
Resource3 Name & Resource3 URL:
Source Code
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/17/Fedora/source/SRPMS/">http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/17/Fedora/source/SRPMS/</a></pre>
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I guess this is more of a technical question: How does the above
link accurately represent things if we - as you described above -
have different "more updated but still F17" images? Do we think
people will be confused / looking for F17 -
date/morepreciseversion/etc?<br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Product Video:
[none]
Usage Instructions:
Connect with SSH. No web services are installed or configured by default.
Fedora's EC2 images follow standard EC2 login conventions, meaning that
root login is disabled, but sudo access is granted. The default username
for the images is ec2-user.
End User License Agreement Text:
[Copied from
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/LicenseAgreement17">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/LicenseAgreement17</a>]
Refund and Cancelation Policy:
Fedora is available free of charge. Normal Amazon Web Services terms
apply.</pre>
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We might include something saying "Normal Amazon Web Services terms
and charges" or "terms, including costs for storage and
bandwidth/uploading/downloading/whatever" apply.<br>
<br>
Also: Since we have a mirror internal to amazon - is that something
worth highlighting? Or does the AWS marketplace work differently
from regular EC2 (I haven't looked in detail at any differences)<br>
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<pre wrap="">
Available in Regions....
True for all.</pre>
</blockquote>
This is not really true in EC2, I don't think we're doing Fedora in
non-us regions, are we? - does AWS marketplace provide wider
availability?<br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Endpoint URL Protocol:
ssh
[hopefully, I can get them to construct a <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="ssh://ec2-user@">ssh://ec2-user@</a>.... URL]
Upgrade Instructions:
[Blank for now]
Recommended Instance Type:
Standard Large</pre>
</blockquote>
Is this basically a bulletpoint option, or is there additional text
that we could include as to why (ie: standard large - Recommended
for common use cases like $unicornbuilding, $bikeshedding, etc)<br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Available Instnace Types:
All except GPU. (Including Micro)
Pricing:
Zeros.
Security Groups:
tcp, 80, 80, 0.0.0.0/0
tcp, 443, 443, 0.0.0.0/0
tcp, 22, 22, 0.0.0.0/0
[These are defaults for one-click launch]
</pre>
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