<div dir="ltr">I'm curious about the drive to make the "base cloud image" as small as possible and remove things like the Python stack. It could be that I've got a terminology issue (which also could be the case) tracking threads.<div><br></div><div>What's the expected use of the "base cloud image"? The relevant download page states:</div><div>"Everything you need, and nothing you don't."</div><div>"images for creating general purpose virtual machines (VMs)"<br></div><div><br></div><div>The drive to a small as possible and stripped down base image doesn't make sense to me in that context. General purpose compute for a modern system would include things like dnf, python, full logging capabilities, without a need to add a large number of packages. </div><div><br></div><div>If the drive to make the base image as small as possible is for docker containers (as I've seen in other threads), there already exists a Docker Base image.</div><div><br></div><div>What is base functionality in a container isn't the same as base functionality for a general purpose system in AWS or OpenStack.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess I'm saying I'd like to be clear when we are talking about Cloud Base vs Docker Base and make sure the relationship between them is clear and the goals for each are clear. Especially where changes could harm adoption (Cloud Images without Python in AWS would be bad ).</div><div><br></div><div>-Matt M</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Kushal Das <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kushaldas@gmail.com" target="_blank">kushaldas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Thank you everyone for a great Fedora 22 release. Things are stable now,<br>
before we can understand we will be in the alpha freeze for Fedora 23.<br>
So this is a good time to start working on the new features list for Fedora<br>
23. 23rd June is the last date to submit a new system wide change<br>
for Fedora 23, 11th August is the alpha release for Fedora 23.<br>
<br>
Below I have written few points which came up in different discussions.<br>
Please feel free to comment/add/delete in this thread.<br>
<br>
* Better user documentation for cloud. We need something better than<br>
wiki.<br>
* Notification of pending updates in the base image. After login the<br>
user should get a motd message saying which all updates are pending (I<br>
have worked on this part time before).<br>
* Reduce the base cloud image size (we also have<br>
<a href="https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/378" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/378</a> )<br>
* testCloud (pushed back from Fedora 22 change list).<br>
* <a href="https://github.com/vmware/tdnf" target="_blank">https://github.com/vmware/tdnf</a> this might help us to go another step<br>
closer to remove Python stack from the cloud image.* Having a better<br>
* workstation to cloud story (came up in the last week's meeting).<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Kushal<br>
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Fedora Cloud Engineer<br>
CPython Core Developer<br>
Director @ Python Software Foundation<br>
<a href="http://kushaldas.in" target="_blank">http://kushaldas.in</a><br>
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