[Design-team] future for Nuancier

[Kirk Bridger]

Hey br gnokii,

You included quite a few problem statements and even more solution 
statements.  I hope I'm getting to the core problems you're describing.  
Apologies if I missed the mark.

It sounds to me, if I'm hearing you correctly, that a first challenge is 
getting more voters.  A second problem is getting higher quality 
submissions.  I don't think changes to the voting software will 
influence either of those things.

I like your final statement, that you want to build a community around 
the wallpapers.  Some of your solutions below seem counter-productive to 
encouraging a flourishing community, particularly as it is so relatively 
young.

I can get behind ideas like:
- increase number of voters
- increase visibility of the contest
- provide more mentoring for submitters

As someone who voted (but didn't submit) this time I don't think 
nuancier was a problem for me at all in terms of finding 16 high quality 
images to vote for.

Kirk





On 2014-09-07, 8:44 AM, S.Kemter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have done our second voting in Nuancier and managed the first time 
> te whole process in it.
>
> The results and statistics are accessible here:
>
> Fedora 20: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/stats/1/
> Fedora 21: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/stats/2/
>
> As you can see the number of voters didnt increase that high, 128 on 
> F20 and 116 on F21. With this low number of voters, its easily that 
> submissions with low quality get enough votes to be amongst the winners.
>
> For bettering that there are several options
>
> * increase the number of voters, thats hard to influence at all
> * make a point voting system first choice gets highest available 
> points, but that is harder to hack
> * enforce a number of votes as minimum, we didnt want that before as 
> it can have a negative influence that some choose an wallpaper they 
> really like and fill up the rest with random choices.
> * make a point system and give a group of people higher points to 
> award, like design-team and/or sysamin-nuancier
>
> So for me last option is the possible solution for it any other 
> solutions or opinions?
>
> I also have a feeling that not only the number of submissions get 
> decreased as also the quality of the submissions decreased. I also had 
> the opinion of some submitters of high quality pictures, the will not 
> contribute as they felt insulted to end up in the lowest ranks against 
> submissions with lower quality who was ranked much higher
>
> * increase the visibility of the contest, havent written to project 
> and announce lists for F21 to get more submissions again
> * bring in a mentoring system for submissions
>
> I feel the second option would change the situation for an better 
> quality dramatically, but for it Nuancier have to change a little bit 
> more.
>
> * an submitter can submit more but can have with the help of the 
> mentors choose the right submissions for an final submission (lesser 
> options to vote on with higher quality, would change also the voting 
> problem)
> * we sooner or later come to the "ubuntu-problem" the had so many 
> submissions that they had to allow only one submission a user, we 
> would avoid getting to such an solution if submitter had any chance to 
> preselect there submission with the help of mentors
>
> What I have in mind with this idea is to build a community around the 
> supplemental wallpaper, we could submitters who have submitted over a 
> time high quality content the status of mentoring others and keep in 
> this way the quality high as well the interest in the supplemental 
> wallpapers.
>
>
>
> are there opinions or other ideas to that?
>
>
> br gnokii
>
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>
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