Maybe you could make the full build and a netinstall? I'm fine with a file that big, but I know many people don't have DVD-ROM's, so that could help as well. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@when.com">sebastian@when.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Nicu Buculei wrote:<br>
> On 12/22/2009 01:01 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:<br>
<br>
Sorry for being so calm over the holidays - I was planning to get all of<br>
this done much earlier but got somehow stuck in the middle.<br>
<br>
>> as I said some time ago on list I'll be doing the Design Suite for<br>
>> Fedora 13. Having had some pretty cool discussion with Diana, Mel and Mo<br>
>> in the hackroo... hospitality suite at FUDCon, I've created and uploaded<br>
>> a first build.<br>
><br>
> Nice... are available anywhere some notes about the design concepts<br>
> agreed there? (like select 'best of breed' apps or include as much as<br>
> possible, restrict to graphics or also go for audio/video, include or<br>
> not data...)<br>
<br>
I think (if I recall correctly) we were taking the "what would help<br>
designers - so also people on the design team or those who want to get<br>
involved" approach. Admittedly, that's a pretty broad one and I think we<br>
mentioned that having sample content and introductions either somewhere<br>
on the spin or on a bookmarked page would be good.<br>
<br>
>> It's already based on yesterday's Rawhide, even though it still calls<br>
>> itself Generic 12 - which means it might very well break. It worked for<br>
>> me in a VM, so you might just want to give it a try. It's currently<br>
>> around 900 MB and already using Peter Robinson's modified base package<br>
>> set, but we'll see if we can fit it into CD-size for the final release.<br>
><br>
> I don't think CD size is a realistic target, my suggestion is to aim for<br>
> 2GB USB sticks (maybe 1.5GB worth of application, leaving some space for<br>
> live persistence)<br>
<br>
Well, it depends on what we end up with. For example OpenOffice Impress<br>
is a *major* space consumer. Basically, it means that we're using about<br>
150 MB for a single application. Excluding that one would bring us down<br>
to 750 MB, which isn't too far from CD-size. However, since we're just<br>
starting to talk about it, I guess we'll just see what comes close.<br>
<br>
In the end, it might well be a 2 GB target - I don't know, yet.<br>
<br>
>> Actually, I was trying to upload it somewhere quickly and ended up using<br>
>> Wuala. You might need to run a java applet to download it immediately,<br>
>> depending on whether my upload has already propagated to all their<br>
>> systems. Peter has already offered to help with hosting, so this is just<br>
>> a very very temporary solution.<br>
>><br>
>> Anyway, enough talk, here you go: <a href="http://www.wuala.com/sdziallas/fedora" target="_blank">http://www.wuala.com/sdziallas/fedora</a><br>
>><br>
>> If you've any suggestions concerning which apps to include, to remove or<br>
>> what else to do, just shout! There's still a bit on my list and I'll<br>
>> move ahead and document more things over winter vacation, too.<br>
><br>
> I don't think I will get the time to play with it this year, can you<br>
> provide the list of packages?<br>
<br>
Finally, I've thrown something in the wiki -<br>
<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite#Packages" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite#Packages</a> has all the<br>
details. I didn't include a real rationale for now, so feel free to rant! ;)<br>
<br>
Aside from that, the page looks really cool (thanks Mel!) - if anybody<br>
has package suggestions or further ideas, just add them there.<br>
<br>
Cheers & Happy New Year!<br>
--Sebastian<br>
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