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<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: The capital "i" in Comfortaa (Emily Dirsh)<br> 2. Re: The capital "i" in Comfortaa (Fabian A. Scherschel)<br> 3. Joining design team wiki page (Emily Dirsh)<br>
4. Re: Joining design team wiki page (Ian Weller)<br> 5. Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today! (M?ir?n Duffy)<br> 6. Re: Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today! (Ian Weller)<br> 7. Willem de Kooning academy design program: interested in<br>
working with Fedora (Mel Chua)<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Emily Dirsh <<a href="mailto:emily@fightingcrane.com">emily@fightingcrane.com</a>><br>To: Fedora Design Team <<a href="mailto:design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org">design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:44:40 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [Design-team] The capital "i" in Comfortaa<br>
<div>I'll agree - although it is not really a bone of contention for me personally, the 'unserif-ized' I is much cleaner looking. And though it would be able to be mistaken for a lowercase L - although the lower l in this font is differentiated, it's not immediately obvious - I'd say the cases where confusion could be a real issue aren't common, and easily (?) avoided in a titling font.<br>
<br>Also, the word jumbling is really fun, but it's not quite as easy as you might think. <img border="0" alt=";)" align="middle" src="cid:1280166280.4383.9.camel@oliver-is-a-cutie-like-emi.netracer.sccoast.net"> I thought this was interesting: <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511177,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511177,00.html</a><br>
<br><br>On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 15:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:<br>
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<blockquote>Nope, I also think the "I" is a bit off in this font. Besides, "l"<br>already has a more subtle, but fitting, hint of serifs. </blockquote></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="CITE">I so completely agree with that! :) </blockquote>
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<blockquote type="CITE">That gibberish thing was actually something I learned in a Phonetics class. Of course I've forgotten what that phenomenon is actually called. LOL. </blockquote>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:12:25 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [Design-team] The capital "i" in Comfortaa<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Emily Dirsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emily@fightingcrane.com" target="_blank">emily@fightingcrane.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><br>Also, the word jumbling is really fun, but it's not quite as easy as you might think. <img border="0" alt=";)" align="middle" src="cid:1280166280.4383.9.camel@oliver-is-a-cutie-like-emi.netracer.sccoast.net"> I thought this was interesting: <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511177,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511177,00.html</a>
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<div>Wow, that link is cool! Nice read. Thanks, Emily! :)</div>
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<div><br></div><br clear="all"># Fabian A. Scherschel<br># Host & Producer, Sixgun Productions
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<div> </div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Emily Dirsh <<a href="mailto:emily@fightingcrane.com">emily@fightingcrane.com</a>><br>To: design team <<a href="mailto:design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org">design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:26:42 -0400<br>Subject: [Design-team] Joining design team wiki page<br>
<div>I've made a few updates to the 'how to join the design team' wiki page: <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team</a> <br>
<br>Here's what I changed:<br>- I removed one of the info boxes that were at the top, and incorporated it into the body of the article to remove a bit of clutter/confusion<br>- I cleaned up the writing a bit, clarified a few steps, and tried to simplify things overall<br>
- I mentioned the design bounties and pointed to Mo's blog (plug, plug, plug - more ninjas!!!)<br>- That's it!<br><br>Check out the page history for the exact changes, and feel free to revise/comment on any of the changes I made!<br>
<br>Emily </div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Ian Weller <<a href="mailto:ian@ianweller.org">ian@ianweller.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org">design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:00:28 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [Design-team] Joining design team wiki page<br>On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 03:26:42PM -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote:<br>> I've made a few updates to the 'how to join the design team' wiki page:<br>
> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team</a><br><br>Very well done, Emily! Thanks for your work on this page -- feel free to<br>
dive in anywhere on the wiki you find it appropriate to make changes. :)<br><br>--<br>Ian Weller <<a href="mailto:ian@ianweller.org">ian@ianweller.org</a>><br>Where open source multiplies: <a href="http://opensource.com/" target="_blank">http://opensource.com</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:55:05 -0400<br>Subject: [Design-team] Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today!<br>Hi folks!<br><br>This is a reminder that our weekly IRC meeting is at 19:00 UTC today<br>(July 27) in #fedora-design on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net/" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>.<br>
<br>On the agenda:<br><br>- F14 artwork:<br> - today is the deadline for the alpha. Which wallpaper mockup should<br>we have checked in?<br> - how is the feedback gathering going? Any feedback from Fedora Forum?<br><br>- Fedora branding fonts:<br>
- Luya will be packaging Comfortaa<br> - When we get Comfortaa packaged we should change the usage guidelines<br> - Ian will talk about potentially using Comfortaa in the FUDcon logo<br> - Other fonts - any more feedback on Cantarell or Droid Sans?<br>
<br>- New Design team join page (by Michael Beckwith)<br> - Emily made some changes, how do folks like them?<br> - Any other feedback?<br> - When should we copy it over to the main page?<br><br>- Fedora website redesign<br>
- Content review status (Jef)<br> - Tutorial list (Ian McG)<br> - Pending mockup changes from last week:<br> - move the greyscale features to the features page<br> - use the four f's instead of the grey feature icons on the front<br>
page<br><br>- Other UX projects<br> - Live USB Creator UI <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/146" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/146</a><br> - Installer UI <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/147" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/147</a><br>
- add a community feature to the slideshow front & center<br> - add a section 'what makes fedora different' for current linux users<br>of other distros<br> - maybe the summary slide #1, community slide #2, then 2 or 3 more<br>
slides to show the best new features in the current release<br><br>- Robyn's design team marketing plan<br> Has our first interview been completed yet?<br><br>- Open floor<br><br>We'll try to keep the meeting to an hour.<br>
<br>If you'd like to add items to this agenda, just reply to the email.<br>Below is a time conversion listing for folks who participated in the<br>meeting time selection process:<br><br>Luya: 12 PM<br>Tatica: 3 PM<br>
Martha: 3 PM<br>Máirín: 3 PM<br>Onyeibo: 8 PM<br>fabsh: 9 PM<br>wonderer: 9 PM<br>Martin: 9 PM<br>Nicu: 10 PM<br>Pierros: 10 PM<br><br>~m<br><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Ian Weller <<a href="mailto:ian@ianweller.org">ian@ianweller.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org">design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:11:33 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [Design-team] Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today!<br>On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:55:05AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:<br>
> - Fedora branding fonts:<br>> - Luya will be packaging Comfortaa<br>> - When we get Comfortaa packaged we should change the usage guidelines<br>> - Ian will talk about potentially using Comfortaa in the FUDcon logo<br>
> - Other fonts - any more feedback on Cantarell or Droid Sans?<br><br>I'll more be talking about "potentially replacing all the fonts in all<br>the logos with Comfortaa." Hopefully won't be too long of a discussion<br>
-- if it gets hairy we can take it to the list. :)<br><br>--<br>Ian Weller <<a href="mailto:ian@ianweller.org">ian@ianweller.org</a>><br>Where open source multiplies: <a href="http://opensource.com/" target="_blank">http://opensource.com</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:50 -0400<br>Subject: [Design-team] Willem de Kooning academy design program: interested in working with Fedora<br>Logs that people may find interesting:<br><br><a href="http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-07-23/oscon_talk_on_edu_+_foss_+_design.2010-07-23-17.12.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-07-23/oscon_talk_on_edu_+_foss_+_design.2010-07-23-17.12.html</a><br>
<br>They're from an OSCON talk about a program at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_de_Kooning_Academy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_de_Kooning_Academy</a> and how it's using FOSS (both the tools/tech and the open source way of doing things) as a requirement for its Masters students .<br>
<br><a href="http://pzwart.wdka.nl/networked-media/category/study-programme/description-philosophy/" target="_blank">http://pzwart.wdka.nl/networked-media/category/study-programme/description-philosophy/</a><br><br>"We offer a Master programme focused on a critical engagement with the culture of the Internet and computer media, their artistic design, technology and theory. It is a small course with a highly international community of students and teachers, and a strong emphasis on personal contact and collaboration... Free and Open Source Software and do-it-yourself ethic play a key role in the programme. Aside from its obvious benefit of giving you... toolchains at zero cost, Open Source software tends to be extremely modular, open to DIY and custom applications. It gives value to seemingly outmoded hardware, and provides you with building blocks for your own projects rather than solutions that strongly preformat the function and aesthetics of your work."<br>
<br>They're very interested in talking more with the Fedora Design Team - one possible framing is "do the tools, techniques, and etc. we're experimenting with in our (physical) school transfer to distributed online communities as well?" but mizmo may have other angles, as she talked with them on IRC for a bit (as did tatica and ianweller).<br>
<br>They're very interested in tools and processes for collaborative design, more than they are interested in direct replacements for existing design software (so design hub, <a href="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/design-hub-update/" target="_blank">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/design-hub-update/</a>, is more interesting to them than "GIMP is like Free Photoshop! and so forth).<br>
<br>Immediate things for discussion at the meeting:<br><br>* Can we try out PickPic for them and let them know if it's a useful tool (and if so, would Fedora folks be interested in helping with coding/deployment, as this is a prototype written by artists who aren't devleopers?) <a href="http://django.parcodiyellowstone.it/accounts/login/?redirect_to=/pickpic/selectproject/" target="_blank">http://django.parcodiyellowstone.it/accounts/login/?redirect_to=/pickpic/selectproject/</a><br>
<br>* Is anyone from Fedora Design interested in going to <a href="http://makeart.goto10.org/call/" target="_blank">http://makeart.goto10.org/call/</a> to meet up with them and figure out how to start collaborating? (Poitiers, France, 4-7 November)<br>
<br>* Can someone reach out to these folks and see if any of their students would like to do/deploy their projects within Fedora - contribute to the Design Team as part of their coursework, or otherwise?<br><br>* Can someone reach out to them and get them to review the Design Suite Spin?<br>
<br>That's off the top of my head, for meeting discussion today.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--Mel<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>design-team mailing list<br><a href="mailto:design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org">design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
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