Hmmm.... Somehow Apple manages to sell millions of iPads a month with these terrible adverts. Maybe they aren't *that* bad? Especially considering that the device itself is terrible and just looks good IMO.<br>
<br><div>Anyway, I was actually trying to help. From the last few weeks I can see that is not wanted. I will concentrate on actually producing some artwork as soon as I can get the time to do it as it has become clear to me that the atmosphere around here isn't what I mistook it for. To be clear, I don't feel offended. Mo telling me on IRC is was full of bullshit didn't offend me and so didn't anything else. I believe in telling people what I think and can very well take the reverse, but I understand that this isn't wanted in many places. I also didn't want to offend anyone of you, I was just trying to pass on what I thought was a valid point.</div>
<div><br></div><div>See you around,</div><div>Fab</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/20 Máirín Duffy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org">duffy@fedoraproject.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 22:29 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:<br>
<br>
> Who said anything about lying or misleading?<br>
<br>
</div>I did, was just laying out the two extremes to be avoided.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> But mentioning ones weaknesses is not what advertising is about.<br>
> There is a whole gamut of grey in between lying and misleading and<br>
> bluntly stating the truth and that gamut is exactly where good<br>
> advertising lives.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Just look at Apple. I hate this company and their products but when it<br>
> comes to advertising, they know what they are doing.<br>
<br>
</div>Yeh, I'm particularly amused by the number of iPad advertisements I see<br>
in the subway with the iPad phallically placed between the user's legs.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2010/03/st-oscars-ipad-ad.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2010/03/st-oscars-ipad-ad.jpg</a><br>
<a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/07/ipad-ad.jpg" target="_blank">http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/07/ipad-ad.jpg</a><br>
<a href="http://blog.ziggytek.com/wp-content/uploads/ziggytek/blog/2010/03/ipad-ad.jpg" target="_blank">http://blog.ziggytek.com/wp-content/uploads/ziggytek/blog/2010/03/ipad-ad.jpg</a><br>
<a href="http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/firstipadad.png" target="_blank">http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/firstipadad.png</a><br>
<br>
Have you actually tried to lay back with a tablet or even a book in that<br>
position? It's not exactly comfortable. (well at least not for me, it<br>
takes a bit of contortion.)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Slogans like this one is why we can't compete with them out there<br>
> IMHO. We can have all the freedom and happiness in our ivory tower,<br>
> but if we can't get it to users none of this matters.<br>
<br>
</div>No. The reason we can't compete is because this much ado is made and<br>
time wasted about a filler slogan in a mockup. It's like writing a<br>
restaurant review of a dish while it's still uncooked in the pan.<br>
<br>
Now, if all that energy could be harnessed towards instead making<br>
advertising that subliminally convinces viewers that Fedora will endow<br>
them in a desirable way....<br>
<br>
Tongue in cheek,<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">~m<br>
<br>
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