long running sessions, restarts, etc.
skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Tue Sep 29 19:23:16 UTC 2009
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> wrote:
> Colin Walters (walters at verbum.org) said:
> > For system-level services, we have the idea of try-restart on upgrades; if
> > > the service is running, we automatically restart it on upgrade.
> > How does that work? Obviously you can't restart packagekitd while it's in
> > the middle of upgrading. Another one you obviously can't just kill and
> > restart is libvirtd.
> Actually, libvirtd does restart on upgrade. It's implemented in the
> init scripts.
> But...hm, ok, so all of the state is in the config data/cache, and child qemu processes I guess. The real point here is
> the qemu processes.
> > The live replace files on disk part of upgrade is also problematic, and is
> > actually the most broken thing relating to updates we have right now. For
> > this reason among others I think we should move to installing updates
> > immediately before logout/reboot.
> Really? I think we're moving more towards a model on mobile devices where
> there *is* no logout/reboot except by accident in a large number of cases.
> The update system should prompt to start installing updates and automatically do a logout/reboot as necessary.
And I think what Bill is saying is that a lot of users will not want to
logout. They will want to just restart the app in question, if they are
told which apps are impacted.
I don't expect to have to reboot just b/c of an issue in the sound server.
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