sudo by default?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 02:52:15PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 05.05.10 10:22, Yaakov Nemoy (loupgaroublond at gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 2010/5/4 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de>:
> > > BTW: another reason to enable sudo by default is to unify things a
> > > little across distributions: to my knowledge Ubuntu (and related
> > > distros) set up sudo like that. It would be nice if folks coming from
> > > their would have an easy path to administrating Fedora systems.
> > 
> > I disagree with this logic. It's too much like the 'if your friends
> > all jumped off the brooklyn bridge, would you do it too?' logic
> > parents use to convince kids not to do drugs.
> 
> Well, it might come as a surprise to some, but actually Ubuntu is not
> just a bunch of imbiciles, and it kinda annoys me that whenever
> something comes from or is done in Ubuntu, people saya: "well, if Ubuntu
> does it, then it is questionnable because they don't know what they do
> and their distro is only used by noobs".
> 
> Well, that's simply bullshit. 

I think Yaakov said in the paragraph right after the snip above that
he was simply not 100% convinced the implementation Ubuntu chose is
correct, not that they were imbeciles.  Yes, analogies are generally
bad.

> It is a good idea, and taking inspiration from their work and working
> towards minimizing the differences between the distros even if that
> means we make a step in their direction, is nothing like jumping from a
> bridge, taking drugs, or convincing your kids about that.

A lot of people want or expect some way to promote themselves easily,
whether that's sudo or something else.  If we end up taking a cue from
another distro, there's no shame in that, nor in considering other
ways to do this elegantly.

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