Per user vs. system settings in GNOME 3 (was Re: How do we change fonts now)

[Jóhann B. Guðmundsson]

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 21:00 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> So, when told of the best, quickest, most efficient way to get your
> problem solved, you'd rather write condescending bullshit that
> justifies
> *not* getting involved, rather than work to solve your issues?
> Seriously?

Interesting to see that you categories working through our bugzilla
instance as not being involved but working through upstream bugzilla is.

It's also interesting to see that you seem to be categorizing bugs as
individuals "issues" and that "issue" only affects one person.. 

I guess me been spending now 2 hours trying to recreate one of those
tough to catch bugs ( 678448 ) hard to duplicate, it does not always
crash bug in evolution at 03:00 in the morning trying to catch that
sucker to give the maintainer actually something to work with is not
considered contribution in your books or being involved... 

Owen has made it perfectly clear to me that they wont be fixing any UI
Design ( bugs ) before GNOME 3.0  So excuse me that I dont jump on a
horse ride to Gnome land file a UI design (  bug ) that wont get fixed
anyway before we release F15.... 

Regarding the whole file upstream mantra that just takes the load of the
maintainer in question and puts it on the reporters. 

Today we are focusing on X that would require us to have an upstream X
account tomorrow we are testing KDE that would require us to have on
upstream KDE account on sunday it x on monday it's y. etc etc I'm pretty
sure you can do the math here.. 

Now let's say I was new I had interest to join the reporters group of QA
and I have barely gone through our documentation and learned our
bugzilla behavior when it's demanded of me that I create account and go
through upstream documentation to learn their bugzilla behavior to file
bug there ahh.. but it gets more complicated not all upstream is using
bugzilla let's all increase the learning curve for the new guy just so
we can save the maintainer some time...

So if you feel what I wrote was some condescending bullshit then by all
mean feel that way everybody has a right of their own opinion.

>From my perspective it seriously feels like I need to draw a picture for
people to understand what I'm getting at when maintainers scream
upstream because those maintainers usually look at us reporters as a
nuance and have a hard time looking at things from our side...  

JBG