Thoughts about Fedora 21 Desktop

Peter Laursen jazcyk at gmail.com
Mon Dec 8 12:48:07 UTC 2014


1)
"There's an option in initial-setup "make user an Administrator" that
basically does this, not sure if the gnome equiv does the same."

OK, that was what that option was for. I saw it, but did not understand the
meaning of if.  The (Windows) term "administator" is confusing a Linux
context IMO.  I think "sudoer" would be better (or "sudoer (administrator)"
if you like)

2)
> We have gnome-software, which is better for end users in my opinion. It
> shows actual apps instead of thousands of library packages that confuse
new
> users. I don't think we want to change this.

Still you may want to install software comng from another desktop
environment (examle: amarok) or something that is not specific for gnome or
any specific desktop environment at all (like Wine).
I cannot see what should be confusing . You will use the search field
(enter "amarok" or "wine" for instance).

3) I use the traditonal/old/classic Gnome interface and don't find
"settngs" available anywhere in the menu there and for that reason never
found this interface at all before. It should probably be added to "system
tools" menu (or what it is named in English. I am a Danish user)?


-- Peter


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Elad Alfassa <elad at fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Peter Laursen <jazcyk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> 1) I think *deifnitely* that the "Yum Extender" software management GUI
> >> should be included in the  Desktop version as default. I was not aware
> of
> >> this interface untill someone in Virtualbox Forums pointed my attention
> to
> >> it.
> >
> >
> > We have gnome-software, which is better for end users in my opinion. It
> > shows actual apps instead of thousands of library packages that confuse
> new
> > users. I don't think we want to change this.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) The (human) user created during installation should be added to
> >> sudo'ers list automatically. I cannot think of any other Desktop
> oriented
> >> distro that does not.  If you are not a *Fedora hawk* , hs no experience
> >> with Linux, this is actually somewhat non-trivial.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK users creating during the initial setup process (after you finish
> with
> > Anaconda) automatically get added to the wheel group which means they get
> > sudo access. I don't know about the user creation in Anaconda - but I
> think
> > that the user creation in Anaconda is not a thing we want in Workstation
> at
> > all.
>
> There's an option in initial-setup "make user an Administrator" that
> basically does this, not sure if the gnome equiv does the same.
>
> Peter
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Hilsen / Regards

Peter Laursen
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