<div dir="ltr">I actually like the current bootloader, and plymouth loading screen. Having a bland, grey interface that only shows me high level information such as "Fedora, Windows 8" etc is not my idea of progress. It also give me instant view into which kernel version I am booting. I admit I sometimes get a kernel update without noticing it until I boot and see it in the grub menu.<div>
<br></div><div style>I just dont see the point of changing a functional bootloader interface to be plain and gray. Nor do I see the point of getting rid of the Fedora logo / plymouth filling in, in favor of bland "spiny thing".</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I am in agreement with the previous replier: My first reaction would be to curse the person whom changed a functional bootloader into a whack-a-mole attempt to find out what the heck is going on.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Lennart Poettering <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mzerqung@0pointer.de" target="_blank">mzerqung@0pointer.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 11.03.13 21:45, Nicolas Mailhot (<a href="mailto:nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net">nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net</a>) wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> Le Lun 11 mars 2013 21:16, Lennart Poettering a écrit :<br>
> > On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (<a href="mailto:lists@colorremedies.com">lists@colorremedies.com</a>) wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson <<a href="mailto:bjorn@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se">bjorn@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >> > Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press<br>
> >> some key at the<br>
> >> > right moment?<br>
> >><br>
> >> A multiboot system needs at least a message to inform the user how to<br>
> >> get to the boot manager (the GRUB menu). A Fedora only system probably<br>
> >> should entirely suppress the menu or notice how to get to it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Somebody who is capable of installing multiple operating systems on one<br>
> > machine should easily be savvy enough to remember that pressing<br>
> > shift/esc/space/f2/whatever gets him the boot menu.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you installed multiple OSes and noticed that the boot menu is gone,<br>
> > wouldn't pressing these keys be your natural reaction anyway?<br>
><br>
> My natural reaction would be to curse whoever is making me waste minutes<br>
> in press-random-keys-to-see-if-you-can-unlock-boot games to "win" a few<br>
> seconds. I'm pretty sure any poll would find the same result.<br>
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My natural reaction to the current grub2 menu that steals my boot is<br>
that I start to hate Fedora and Linux for that we waste our time in ugly<br>
boot menus and bikeshedding about them.<br>
<br>
Lennart<br>
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