<div dir="ltr"><div>I assumed as much, but thought it worthwhile to mention it.<br><br></div>Best/Liam<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Boyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwboyer@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">jwboyer@fedoraproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><p dir="ltr"><br>
On Sep 8, 2014 9:05 PM, "Liam" <<a href="mailto:liam.bulkley@gmail.com" target="_blank">liam.bulkley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Sep 8, 2014 8:56 AM, "Owen Taylor" <<a href="mailto:otaylor@redhat.com" target="_blank">otaylor@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 17:52 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:<br>
> > > On 09/05/2014 05:49 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Yes, but you're getting that memory back "free" by the extra address space<br>
> > > > opened up on x86_64. Look at your free space numbers. You're given, albeit<br>
> > > > small, more free memory on x86_64.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Well I just realized you're talking about 2GB here, but with low RAM prices and<br>
> > > systems coming with 4GB standard I don't think 2GB is a fair starting point.<br>
> ><br>
> > We decided in the last workstation WG IRC meeting that we're going to<br>
> > list the RAM requirements as "2GB or more". Yes, 4GB (or more) is the<br>
> > reasonable configuration for our target users, in these days of $10/GB<br>
> > memory, but:<br>
> ><br>
> > * Allocating more than 2GB to a VM on a 4GB system is difficult.<br>
> ><br>
> > * There are some people who have old systems that, for whatever reason,<br>
> > would be hard to increase the memory on.<br>
> ><br>
> > * Listing our memory requirements as 4GB sounds like Fedora is much<br>
> > more memory intensive than competitors, and it isn't.<br>
> ><br>
> > So, given that, the question I was trying to answer is whether if<br>
> > someone is trying to use Fedora Workstation on an actual 2GB system,<br>
> > whether using i686 is an advantage. The answer seems to be that if you<br>
> > are actually using Fedora day-to-day on such a system (not doing a quick<br>
> > test in a VM), then you would be better off using i686.<br>
> ><br>
> Since no one mentioned this, perhaps for good reason, I thought I'd bring up the possibility of supporting x32 instead of i686. <br>
> IMHO, however, RAM isn't going to be a concern for the majority of the target audience.</p>
</div></div><p dir="ltr">That requires a secondary arch effort. It's not in scope for F21 or F22 and really it isn't worth the effort.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">josh</p>
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