<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18090">What would happen if Gnome decides to stop being Open Source? I believe we have too much reliance on one GUI developer, tunnel vision and "not invented here" syndrome. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18092"><br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18042"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18041"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18039" class="signature"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18038"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18037"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18036"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18035"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18034"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18033"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18032"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18126" style="" lang="FR-CA">Regards</span> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18040"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18125"><font size="2"><br></font><font size="2"> Leslie</font><br></b></div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18031"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18121" color="green"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18120"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18124" size="1">Mr. Leslie Satenstein</font></b></font><font style="color:rgb(191, 0, 95);" size="1" color="green"><span style="font-weight:bold;"></span></font><br></div><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18123" size="2" color="green"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18122">Montréal Québec, Canada</b><br></font><br><font face="lucida console, sans-serif" size="1"><b id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1391351152837_28311"><font id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1391351152837_28310" color="black"><span id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1391351152837_28309" style="font-weight:bold;font-size:13.5pt;color:black;"></span></font></b></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br> <blockquote id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18097" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18096" style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18095" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18094" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18093" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18098" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Allan Day <allanpday@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 27, 2015 6:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Request to include gnome-maps by default in F22<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18099" class="y_msg_container"><br>Alberto Ruiz <<a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18220" ymailto="mailto:aruiz@redhat.com" href="mailto:aruiz@redhat.com">aruiz@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>...<br>>> So, key arguments: it's useful, in a good state, actively developed,<br>>> and is increasingly integrated with the rest of the core utilities.<br>><br>> One could argue that other apps that are not part of the default install<br>> might fit in that description.<br><br>Maps is a core GNOME application. As such, it corresponds to the<br>following definition [1]:<br><br> * Designed by the GNOME designers as a coherent suite<br> * Part of the core GNOME experience<br> * Designed to work cooperatively with each other<br> * Tightly integrated with the core OS<br> * Generically named<br><br>That's what makes it different from other applications.<br><br>The whole point of having core apps is that you have a good set of<br>defaults, covering basic functions. One of the key things about these<br>apps is that they are integrated with other (as Maps is with Contacts,<br>but also Weather and Clocks), as well as the operating system<br>(principally through online accounts at this stage). This kind of<br>integration is only possible by having these apps be bundled as a part<br>of the default experience.<br><br>> I'm still having a hard time to find a<br>> reason why a maps app specifically is important in the live image and<br>> the default install in particular.<br><br>Maps are useful. They are a good thing to have integrated with the<br>other core apps.<br><br>Allan<br><br>[1] <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18100" href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps</a><br>-- <br>desktop mailing list<br><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18158" ymailto="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org">desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427846613952_18156" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop</a><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></body></html>