seth vidal wrote: >So the gist of this is: >"Take what you get and shut up, we can't tell you anyway." > > I haven't read anything from anyone that says to "shut up". In fact, I've read quite the opposite. cf https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg00756.html ("Actually, keep it and tell me what we can do to fix it."), for example. Richard