Mike Chambers (mike at miketc.com) said: > rsyslog could still do the condrestart (or restart) couldn't it? I do > it (mostly just out of me doing it all the time no matter what) anyway > even if the daemon isn't running. It just fails on stop, then ok's on > start after it's running. Well, condrestart works on the same pid file, so it won't work in this cas.e Bill