Fedora with Universal Binaries?
Jon Ciesla
limb at jcomserv.net
Thu Oct 22 18:30:59 UTC 2009
King InuYasha wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at
> <mailto:kevin.kofler at chello.at>> wrote:
>
> King InuYasha wrote:
> > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal
> binary style
> > ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be
> something to
> > watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64
> into single
> > DVD sets.
> >
> > http://icculus.org/fatelf/
>
> Yuck!!! Please don't infect GNU/Linux with this completely
> braindead crap!
> This wastes a lot of disk space and download bandwidth and
> probably also
> increases loading times for NO reason whatsoever. It also doubles
> the build
> times for any and all software. Just figure out what arch your
> machine is
> and install the correct package for your arch! Fat binaries are a
> method to
> make crappy binary-only software distribution easier, they have no
> room on a
> Free Software system. Let the Mac folks keep their fat crap and
> leave our
> binaries as native for the appropriate arch!
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
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> I dunno, it could be useful for Live CDs/USBs. It would let you pack
> multiple arches onto a single LiveCD/USB.
>
Yeah, but they'd be larger, forcing removal of software from the images.
> You sound like one of those crazy people that disregard everything
> that may slightly help proprietary software. It's probably possible to
> strip out arches when they become unneeded, if so desired. I know it
> is possible under Mac OS X to do that. If you had a system that had
> extra arches you didn't need, you probably could just go and strip
> them out to save disk space.
>
So. . .then why do it? There are practical considerations here.
> There isn't much proof to your statement about loading fat binaries. I
> don't notice a slow down in load times of Universal binaries on my
> Mac, but I do notice the disk space. As it is, Snow Leopard now uses
> Universal binaries to pack x86_32 and x86_64 into a single application
> container and can strip out PowerPC binary code.
>
> Don't knock it till you try it...
Strip out where? Build time, install time, or run time?
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