FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

Seth Vidal skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Mon Mar 1 19:46:27 UTC 2010



On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:

> Kevin Kofler (kevin.kofler at chello.at) said:
>>> For most bugfixes, the user doesn't notice at all. When a user gets a
>>> bugfix on something they've hit, they think "oh, that's nice, Fedora fixed
>>> it", but they don't really care whether it cam Monday or Friday. For every
>>> regression they hit, they think "ARRGH, this Fedora crap. All I did is
>>> update and now it's broken and I can't do what I want!" The impact on the
>>> user's productivity and attitude isn't the same, and they can't be treated
>>> the same.
>>
>> One thing to consider: while from a psychological standpoint, a regression
>> is indeed perceived as much worse than an unfixed bug, from a technical /
>> practical standpoint it's actually the smaller issue: you can rollback to
>> the version of the package before the regression, you can't rollback an
>> unfixed bug as there's nothing to roll back to!
>
> Given that we don't provide an easily accessible user-friendly rollback
> mechanism, I don't know that that's actually applicable to the general case,
> though.

yum history undo works pretty well. Not flawless, to be sure - but it's 
not bad for the simple-ish cases.

-sv



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