Orphaning DR17 and EFL

[Simon Wesp]

Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 22:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen:
> Hi,
As-Salāmu `Alaykum

> im orphaning:
> 
> e_dbus
> ecore
> edje
> eet
> efreet
> embryo
> emotion
> epeg
> epsilon
> evas
> ewl
> libeina
and I will also orphan enlightenment.

> Reason:
> The problem started with my co-maintainer cassmodiah, building embryo
> .063 release for F-13 without waiting for me to have the complete
> chain built at least locally and having it tested. That's the way i do
> my packaging stuff. Nothing terribly bad so far, he just wanted to
> help me.
Sorry for this, but this should be fixable. I haven't understand why you
made such a trouble for this silly mistake I made...!?

> While i was fiddling with some DSO problem i had some talk with
> upstream. Upstream recommended to me to deprecate some packages since
> they aren't supported anymore, but change the chain to their DR17 and
> EFL release 1.0 that's soon coming up.
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Packaging
> 
> I was waiting for that release to get it eventually into F-13. At some
> point, a few days ago, i decided that i can't wait for it for F-13 and
> was thinking about using epoch to downgrade embryo again. Thankfully,
> cwickert made the point that i could ask rel-eng to get this build
> untaged. I made a ticket for it with rel-eng and had another one to do
> with FESCo since rel-eng couldn't do it on it's own. Both rel-eng and
> FESCo did a perfect job there and decided the right thing for the
> enduser to get it untaged. Thank you very much again.
> 
> The real reason to get the packages orphaned is the continued
> annoyance of cwickert on IRC (#fedora-de), trying to force me into the
> role of the bad guy there, since he did not understand the problem,
> even not in the FESCo Meeting from today. See the FESCo ticket to get
> a hint of what was going on in #fedora-de.
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/355
> Trying to force anybody into pushing an untested release into F-13.
> You can see that even in the Meeting log. Instead of let me do my job
> as package maintainer. So i'm really sick and tired and give it away.
> 
> Coming back to that social problem mentioned. The rel-eng ticket was
> clearly mentioned in #fedora-de and even to cassmodiah (if i have to
> upload backlogs, cassmodiah == boelkmoeller3), not just by me, but as
> well by cwickert. Everything was talked about, as well what i want to
> do.
> The only social problem here was an arrogant and stubborn cwickert.
> Sorry, but i can't stand a liar.
Sorry, but I don't understand this. Christoph is my best friend in the
Fedora Project. He is sometimes a little bit stubborn and sometimes a
arrogant guy, but he is always fair and he has a open ear for everyone
and every problem and he always gives his best to deal justly.
He's like a modern Salomo and if you have a problem with Christoph, you
should discuss this with him directly, or add him to your ignore list
for continueing a noisefree maintaining of your stuff. Imho the fact
that you have a personal problem with anybody in the project isn't a
good reason for orphaning packages. It's your decision and I don't want
to disabuse you, but you turn down any help (Rudof Kastl known as Che
and Christoph Wickert and Sven Lankes, knwown as killefiz offers you
help) and you are not able to take crtism. Maybe this is the real reason
for this problem?!
Don't take anything (which is spoken to you) personally, it's just
business..... 

> If someone want to grab the packages, feel free.
Nobody wants this packages? Sad! I can't maintain the whole
enlightenment tree alone , because I haven't enough time and knowledge
base to handle this, although some friends offers me help to fix this.
I would take these packages again if there is a bunch of people who
tried to help me permanently, but I'm pessimistic of this. :-( It's very
sad, because enlightenment is a cool desktop and a real alternative to
other windowmanagers like the ugly openbox. LXDE for example works with
enlightenment and it's very cool to have a desktop that gives you such a
style without being a fat bitch :-p (Sorry Christoph, but you already
know my opinion)

> -- 
> LG Thomas
> 
> Dubium sapientiae initium
-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem schönen Hainzell
Simon Wesp

http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp
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