Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Monday 29 March 2010 14:20:57 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 03/29/2010 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > On Monday 29 March 2010 14:03:51 Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> >> 2010/3/29 Michał Piotrowski<mkkp4x4 at gmail.com>:
> >>> 2010/3/29 Oliver Falk<oliver at linux-kernel.at>:
> >>>> I had similar issues already and I totally agree with Christoph!
> >>>> The maintainer should not redirect the bugreporter to the upstream
> >>>> bugreporting plattform. I already have plenty of accounts on upstream
> >>>> bugzillas because of exactly this...
> >>> 
> >>> I don't see any problem here if KDE SIG just declare "we don't fix KDE
> >>> bugs, we just update packages".
> >>> 
> >>> They are not KDE developers, so they don't know how to fix these bugs.
> >> 
> >> This response regardless, as a downstream user of a package, if i
> >> report a bug, it's nice to know if it's going to be fixed in a current
> >> release or not. Until the upstream bugfix lands in a package
> >> downstream, downstream should leave the bug open.
> > 
> > Current Bugzilla policy says CLOSED as UPSTREAM is correct resolution.
> > It's just terminology - I would prefer another one - like just UPSTREAM
> > status, or ON_DEV UPSTREAM or something similar. CLOSED UPSTREAM does
> > not mean that nobody cares! It's still tracked!
> 
> Pardon, but I strongly have to disagree with this interpretation.
> 
> As a user, having been hit by a bug, "CLOSED UPSTREAM" is nothing but a
> cheap bold lie packagers use as weak excuse to for not being able to fix
> a bug having hit a user.

Indeed - we are not able to fix all bugs on our own. So we work with upstream. 
I said - I don't like to call it "CLOSED". It's not closed, it's still opened 
issue.

> In other words: "FIXED UPSTREAM" does not fix anything for the user
> struggling with a bug. It only helps the packager to keep his bug
> statistics clean.

We usually don't use it - or I don't remember - if the CLOSED UPSTREAM bug is 
fixed upstream, it's a) backported or b) updated and closed by Bodhi.

Jaroslav

> Analogous considerations apply to "FIXED RAWHIDE"
> 
> Both bugzilla tags should be banned.
> 
> Ralf

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