critpath approval process seems rather broken

[Tim Flink]

On 04/10/2011 07:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 18:19:26 -0700,
>   Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just realized today for the first time that our nightlies are based on 
>> stable, not testing.  I think that's something we need to address.  It's 
>> probably still useful to have nightlies based on stable, but I think 
>> it's rather vital to have images created with the updates in the queue.
> 
> The nightlies are intended to be made from stable, so that they are more
> likely to work and near releases (including test ones) corrsepond to 
> the upcoming release.

I definitely agree that the nightlies need to be made from stable sources.

OTOH, the process for testing anything that is part of the installation
process (anaconda, lorax, mdadm ...) seems to be more of a PITA than it
really needs to be (someone has to build the .iso manually and push it
to fedorapeople in order to share it).

>> So, yes, -testing is the default for f15 installs, but the problem is 
>> you have to get 15 installed first, at which point you can't test the 
>> live image/installer part of the critical path, since you are now in an 
>> installed environment, not a live image/installer.
> 
> There may need to be special instructions for testing things that get included
> in the initramfs to get them tested.

Another option would be to make it easier to build and host images build
from testing for updates that affect the installation process. I'll have
to think about realistic ways that would be possible unless someone else
has an idea.

Until then, instructions would help or someone is going to have to build
and push the testing image by hand.

Tim


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