Ext4 + barriers=1 + ssd + power loss while commiting to a git repo = broken repo?
Michał Piotrowski
mkkp4x4 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 14 14:53:00 UTC 2011
W dniu 14 kwietnia 2011 15:59 użytkownik Eric Sandeen
<sandeen at redhat.com> napisał:
> On 4/14/11 8:50 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> W dniu 14 kwietnia 2011 15:42 użytkownik Eric Sandeen
>> <sandeen at redhat.com> napisał:
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>>> What kind of SSD is it?
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>> OCZ Vertex 2 with firmware 1.25 (this is not the latest version, but I
>> did not have too much courage to update it :))
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> Ok. We (the ext4 list) had a report a year ago or so where someone had really debugged some odd behavior with one ssd and its firmware, but not this one :)
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> So not the same thing exactly, at least.
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>> [ 1.548188] ata3.00: ATA-8: OCZ-VERTEX2, 1.25, max UDMA/133
>> [ 1.548196] ata3.00: 97696368 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
>> [ 1.586184] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> [ 1.586599] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA OCZ-VERTEX2
>> 1.25 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
>> [ 1.587295] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
>> [ 1.587354] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 97696368 512-byte logical blocks:
>> (50.0 GB/46.5 GiB)
>> [ 1.587835] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>> [ 1.587844] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
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>> So far, I have not any problems with this drive (not counting not
>> working S.M.A.R.T. log).
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>>> SSDs being rather new beasts, with various different firmware implementations.... it's also possible that a barrier was ignored, etc... but hard to say.
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>> Do the barriers are somehow dependent on the hardware? Maybe I need to
>> look in the SSD documentation to find out if proper commands are
>> supported?
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> I don't think you'll find that sort of thing; it's a question of implementing the spec properly, really. All I meant is that it is -possible- for hardware to be broken or noncompliant, so it's -possible- that that's what you're seeing. I'm NOT saying that the OCZ-VERTEX2 -is- broken, just musing that the hardware needs to exhibit proper behavior as much as the application needs to issue the right data integrity syscalls. :)
I think I'll try to update firmware on this drive over the weekend.
When I read things like that in firmware release notes
"Fixed rare corner case that could cause the drive to reset and clear user data"
"Fixed a rare condition that could cause the drive to reset and clear the data"
I begin to wonder if it was the right decision to change main drive to SSD :)
Maybe it's time to start using data=journal
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> -Eric
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>>> -Eric
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Best regards,
Michal
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