Default services enabled

[drago01]

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:12:31PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Tom Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On 08/18/2011 06:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 17.08.11 16:43, Tim Waugh (twaugh at redhat.com) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Oh, I just noticed this:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation
>> >>> "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand
>> >>> loading, all socket activated services must autostart."
>> >>
>> >> Uh, oh. I think CUPS is definitely something we should lazily socket
>> >> activate instead of run it unconditionally.
>> >>
>> >> Spot, Bill, what's the reason for this wording in the guidelines? As
>> >> CUPS is something we really should start only when needed, why do we
>> >> have this wording in the guidelines? Can we relax this?
>> >
>> > I think FESCo needs to decide what its policies are wrt on-demand
>> > loading, then we can adjust the Packaging Guidelines appropriately.
>>
>> This is broken IMO ... there is nothing inherently wrong with on
>> demand loading ... actually it is the opposite. (i.e should be done
>> whenever possible).
>>
> On demand loading is great.  But the system administrator needs to have
> control to be able to turn things on and off.

Which has nothing to do with on demand loading. (It does not mean
"start random stuff regardless of configuration").
It is just about *when* to start things not *if*  they are started at all.