on /etc/sysconfig

[drago01]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Simo Sorce <simo at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (simo at redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp4x4 at gmail.com) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > 2011/7/18 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com>:
>> > > > > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
>> > > > the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
>> > > > /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
>> > >
>> > > No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
>> > > borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
>> > > fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
>> >
>> > Some daemons cannot be "fixed", get over with this mantra that daemons
>> > need be fixed Lennart.
>>
>> Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
>> software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
>> is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
>> includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
>> qualify as that.
>
> Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem
> to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line
> options can be rightfully answered with a simple "no".
>
> Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages,
> there is nothing to "fix" in daemons that do not read a config file.
>
> But most of the changes in this area look gratuitous to me. They will
> cause significant changes in admin tools and configurations and
> therefore significant grief.
>
> Note that I am not necessarily against changing stuff in the long term,
> when I started there was no /etc/sysconfig, and I won't cry if it goes
> away and is replaced with a bunch of 'different' config files, big
> deal ... same stuff just in different places, what a revolution!

The "revolution" would be having the staff in the same location in every distro.