F15 / VirtualBox
John5342
john5342 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 9 22:59:26 UTC 2011
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 23:37, Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote:
> >
> > > I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved
> > > and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux users,
> > > I think there needs to be a strong focus on ensuring that all releases
> > > run in virtualized environments without any major issues. ie.
> > > Virtualbox.
> > >
> > > Perhaps a dedicated team among the developers who specialize in this
> area.
> >
> > I don't think there are any developers working on this area, where "this
> > area" is Virtualbox. We don't ship Virtualbox. We don't ship a kernel
> > that has any knowledge of Virtualbox. There's a good argument for having
> > this be part of the QA process and requiring that we boot in the common
> > virtualisation environments as part of the release criteria, but I don't
> > think we can realistically suggest that our virtualisation developers
> > (who work on code that has nothing to do with Virtualbox) be responsible
> > for that.
>
> I'm curious why virtualbox has gained so much inertia so quickly.
> Based solely on the number of kernel bug reports we get that seem to be
> related to it, I have almost zero confidence in it being reliable.
>
> Why are people choosing it over other solutions, and what can we change
> in qemu/kvm to get users using that instead ?
I don't know about anyone else but i found in the days before processors had
hardware virtualization support (i think i had an Athlon 64 x2 at the time)
VirtualBox seemed to run most things i threw at it at quite a usable speed
while all the other open source options seemed to work but the performance
was on par with swimming through concrete. Things may have improved since
but i only use virtual machines every now and again so i just stick to
what's easy.
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