systemd: bugreports for missing service-files

[Reindl Harald]

Am 21.06.2011 00:40, schrieb Lennart Poettering:

>> below a well defined and since years working starting order
>> and now tell me how this will work with your blind "i fire up
>> every service as fast as i can to make boot 5 seconds faster"
>> when the result is nothing orks as expected?
> 
> If there are dependencies missing, then they should be added to the
> respective init script headers, please file bugs against the respective
> packages.

it has to respect "# chkconfig: - 79 31" since this worked for years
and F15 should provide native services, and there are not native
services for F15 while F15 replaces upstart with systemd QA had
to suspend F15 becasue it was not ready as it was released

sorry, but i have to tell you that the real world and yours are not
everytime the same - it is idiotic to file bugs against sysv-scripts
and try to fix some legacy stuff because QA forbid to make it right
and provide a natuve systemd service

ANYWAYS: What you will not understand is that the order allone
is not enough since you try fire up services as fast as possible
and at the same time, so we come to the problem below


>> so we come to the next major problem:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714525
>> it does not really matter for the admin who and why fires up mysqld in
>> this case - if i say "systemctl stop mysqld" i mean this exactly so,
>> everytime in everycase and systemd has to respect this!
> 
> As Michal and I independently verified systemd is actually behaving
> correctly here, and you are running into a different problem, most
> likely because mysql is autospawned on your activated socket

this socket is needed because many things are broken if they start
before mysqld is ready for connections, so it is highly recommended
that systemd NEVER starts a service which was stopped by "systemctl
stop service" - if systemd starts in this case myqld because some
process try to write in the socket this is a bug or if you say
this is not a bug and expected this way it is broken by design

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