Development to release quality

[Jakub Jelinek]

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:05:05AM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 06:01 AM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > Too much QA (or any external QA) imposed on the development make it
> > slower. Compare Linux v. OpenSolaris kernel development. Fedora tries to
> > be very fast developing distro, thus less QA in the development version.

> Ah yes, the ol' QA conundrum.  There isn't enough when a bad product 
> slips into production and there is too much the rest of the time.
> 
> We need QA.  We also need to remember QA's place in this world--support, 
> not line management, not the the final arbiter.  But then this is 
> another long thread.

Sure, we need QA, but for rawhide the development shouldn't be totally
stalled as it is already in F16 right now, where updates for critpath
packages, even when they have several hundred thousands of tests
performed already during package building, just sit in bodhi for 2-3 weeks,
often with first proventester karma after 12 or 14 days.

	Jakub