/usrmove? -> having soultion searching problem?

Jon Ciesla limburgher at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 20:00:54 UTC 2012


On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 10.02.2012 20:42, schrieb Jon Ciesla:
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 10.02.2012 20:35, schrieb Jon Ciesla:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 10.02.2012 20:01, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>>>>>> The IT industry is quite competitive and it advances faster than almost
>>>>>> any other industry. The idea of "Hey, let's stop all progress for now,
>>>>>> and spend a year on nothing" is not how you get to the top, and I do
>>>>>> believe that that's where Fedora and Linux in general belongs. In fact,
>>>>>> we probably need to move even quicker rather than slower if we want to
>>>>>> outclass the competition comprehensively.
>>>>>
>>>>> you are meaning this seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>> change for the sake of change?
>>>>> development for doing development?
>>>>> having solution searching problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF do you want to achieve with this attitude?
>>>>> what complexes do you want to mask?
>>>>>
>>>>> do not fix things wich ain't broken!
>>>>>
>>>>> the is no improvement in waht you are saying!
>>>>> this leads in headless development without any target
>>>>>
>>>>> finally you are saying we will never ever have computers just
>>>>> working becasue of people like you which showing users from
>>>>> time to time that it is wasted energy to adopt any new things
>>>>> because if you are finished the next big change comes
>>>>>
>>>>> and then you wonder that so many users are frustrated about
>>>>> what is going on while very few of them opening their mouth
>>>>> on places where you recognize it - but realize that they are
>>>>> there and do not wonder why the userbase is going away if
>>>>> this attitude will not be stopped!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Things change, things break, things get fixed.  Such is life.  Show me
>>>> an operating system or distribution that has undergone any relevant
>>>> change in the last 20 years and not had anything break.  It's happened
>>>> in most Linux distros.  It happens with OSX releases.  And then
>>>> there's that other OS. . .
>>>
>>> but the hitcounter and speed gets increased more and more
>>>
>>
>> More users, more developers, the systems are getting more complex, the
>> programs are getting more complex.  Honestly, I'd expect things to be
>> worse than they are.
>
> why are getting they so complex?
>
> because careless acting of developers in the last years and
> it feels to get each year worser because nobody seems to
> have the attitude making things right in teh first place
> instead fast

I would argue that it's due to increased functionality, but there are
certainly flawed humans involved.

> be careful mxing not root cause with symptom!

The symptoms of today's problems are the root causes of tomorrow's problems.

-J

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