service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

[Thomas Woerner]

On 02/16/2012 03:22 AM, Emanuel Rietveld wrote:
> On 02/16/2012 02:06 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 02/15/2012 11:09 PM, Emanuel Rietveld wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> I propose the following script in /etc/init.d/iptables
>>
>> I propose you file a BUG against IPTABLES and put your proposal into
>> that bug report then wait and  see what Thomas has to say.
>>
I can only say, that I'd like to have a solution, and there has been 
some discussion about this some time ago. But the result was that it is 
not possible and/or allowed.

>> JBG
>
> I did so. Thomas pointed out that complying with my request would be
> against the packaging guidelines and suggested this needs to be
> discussed at best on Fedora-devel.
>
> The addition of 'at best' in there leads me to believe that he is not
> especially interested in my proposal, but may be willing to add the
> wrapper script if I get wider support for it and/or get the packaging
> guidelines changed.
>
I can not decide the way to go here. Also I can not change packaging 
guidelines. If I add the script to the package, I will get a message 
that this is not allowed.

'at best' meant that this is the best place for this discussion, because 
according to the guidelines I am not allowed add the script to the main 
package and therefore a user has to install an additional package to get 
the help message. This is not working.

I tried to find another solution for this as I switched to systemd, but 
failed also.

> Presumably, getting the packaging guidelines changed involves a lot of
> people's attention - people who are generally already very busy, and do
> not really want to spend precious brain cycles and time on what is
> ultimately a minor improvement visible to only a small number of people.
>
If packaging guidelines will not get modified, then I have no solution.

> Oh well, at least I tried. Thanks
>
> Emanuel
Thomas