/usrmove? -> about the future

[Michal Schmidt]

On 02/21/2012 06:31 PM, Doug Ledford wrote:
> it honors all the LSB dependency tags in the SysV init scripts, and
> my experience is that this is specifically where a number of the
> emulation startup bugs exists.

What do you mean? That the LSB headers are incorrect too often?
It's a problem, but that at least should not be too hard to fix.

 > Furthermore, the design "feature"
> of not stopping anything that it didn't start seems to be more of
> a bug than a feature to me...it means that if an admin starts a
> service manually for whatever reason (debugging, want to see output,
> the systemd unit file won't allow the necessary interactive username
> and password prompt, etc.), then it won't get stopped properly on
> shutdown.

Processes that are still around after stopping the services systemd 
knows about will get a SIGTERM and after 5 seconds a SIGKILL if they 
refuse to die.

> That is not a feature, that's just dumb.

I disagree.

Michal