Improving the Fedora boot experience

[Denys Vlasenko]

On 03/11/2013 09:20 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:07:32 +0100
> Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think we should generate any message. Nothing at all. My BIOS
>> doesn't print a single line, and neither does the kernel if "quiet" is
>> used (which is the default). I really don't see why Plymouth or the
>> boot loader should print any more -- unless a real problem happens,
>> or the user explicitly asked for more, or the boot takes very long.
>>
>> Entering the boot loader is something that is a debugging feature, a
>> tool for professionals. It shouldn't be too hard to expect from them
>> to remember something as simple as maybe "press shift or Space or
>> Esc" to get the boot menu or more verbose output. I mean, honestly,
>> that's probably what most people would try automatically anyway if
>> they want feedback from the machine.
> 
> I'm mostly concerned with making new professionals.
> 
> We have to make the secret information discoverable if we want people
> to poke and prod around.
> 
> If the bioses and systems years ago had been opaque we wouldn't have
> gotten this far.

+1