fedora release name problem

David Malcolm dmalcolm at redhat.com
Tue Mar 19 15:47:06 UTC 2013


On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +0000
> >>> Sérgio Basto <sergio at serjux.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
> >>>> characters which
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
> >>>>
> >>>> Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to
> >>>> "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this additional
> >>>> problem ?
> >>>
> >>> I'd rather we fix things to handle this case than paper it over by
> >>> changing it.
> >>
> > +1
> >
> >> I would very much like that we paper it over right now, unless you
> >> propose to discover and fix every single problem it causes by tomorrow,
> >> when I want us to start rolling TC images.
> >>
> > If by right now you mean until we get TC out (or even until we get alpha
> > out), I wouldn't be opposed to that.  These sort of bugs really are
> > something that need to be fixed and this release name is a good candidate
> > for doing so... but the time from alpha to beta is appropriate for fixing
> > bugs so it's okay if we defer fixing them for a little while.
> >
> > -Toshio "who's been working on various iterations of a fix for this in the
> > python3 package[1] for a few days" Kuratomi
> 
> Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things 
> the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
> 
> You want to set up a side project to spin some images with crazy release 
> names and see what breaks and fix that, then you know, go for it. But 
> I'm trying to ship an operating system that works here, and leaving 
> something we know is causing all kinds of problems in the problematic 
> state just so we can keep finding exciting new problems to fix does not 
> suffuse me with joy.
> 
> If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean, 
> _fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it over is just the right 
> thing to do.

(nods)

If we were *really* masochistic, the release name would contain unicode
code points from outside the BMP i.e. > 65535 e.g. the musical notation
characters.

I, for one, am not that masochistic.

Dave



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